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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2011, 06:55:31 pm »

Sorry Maz, but it sounds to me like it needs to be let go, or put down humanely.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2011, 07:42:39 pm »

But look up the power of apricot kernels(AKA Vitamin B17, amygdalin, laetrile). I know it sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theorist hooplah, but I worked for the company that sells the most kernels and has the longest and best reputation in the industry and some of the testimony from the customers was ridiculously convincing.

This is a scam, and illegal in civilized countries where your drug has to actually cure cancer before you sell it as a cure for cancer.
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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2011, 07:54:25 pm »

I think his account got hijacked by a spambot
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2011, 07:55:43 pm »

I like his argument that "some of the testimony was ridiculously convincing". You can get people to testify that rock salt cures AIDS if you really want to. Especially if you work for a company that sells AIDS-curing rock salt.
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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2011, 01:00:35 pm »

But look up the power of apricot kernels(AKA Vitamin B17, amygdalin, laetrile). I know it sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theorist hooplah, but I worked for the company that sells the most kernels and has the longest and best reputation in the industry and some of the testimony from the customers was ridiculously convincing.

This is a scam, and illegal in civilized countries where your drug has to actually cure cancer before you sell it as a cure for cancer.

There's nothing illegal about selling apricot kernels. Nowhere on the site says that it cures cancer, and when I was talking to customers I wasn't even allowed to say the word "cancer". And before you outright say that it doesn't cure cancer maybe you should do a little research on the subject first. Chemotherapy isn't all that effective, if you haven't noticed, and is incredibly harmful to the body in the process. It's just the preferred treatment because it's so ridiculously expensive that tons of people make ludicrous amounts of money on it.
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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2011, 03:22:14 pm »

I'm guessing his account was hijacked by a spambot, yeah.
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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2011, 03:58:17 pm »

But look up the power of apricot kernels(AKA Vitamin B17, amygdalin, laetrile). I know it sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theorist hooplah, but I worked for the company that sells the most kernels and has the longest and best reputation in the industry and some of the testimony from the customers was ridiculously convincing.

This is a scam, and illegal in civilized countries where your drug has to actually cure cancer before you sell it as a cure for cancer.

There's nothing illegal about selling apricot kernels. Nowhere on the site says that it cures cancer, and when I was talking to customers I wasn't even allowed to say the word "cancer". And before you outright say that it doesn't cure cancer maybe you should do a little research on the subject first. Chemotherapy isn't all that effective, if you haven't noticed, and is incredibly harmful to the body in the process. It's just the preferred treatment because it's so ridiculously expensive that tons of people make ludicrous amounts of money on it.
Eating a nut isn't gonna get rid of a mass of corrupted tissue. Best it would do is eat away all tissue in the process. Chemo is able to be used in specific places, and it does work. The nut thing is ridiculous and very unlikely. 
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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2011, 09:50:43 pm »

But look up the power of apricot kernels(AKA Vitamin B17, amygdalin, laetrile). I know it sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theorist hooplah, but I worked for the company that sells the most kernels and has the longest and best reputation in the industry and some of the testimony from the customers was ridiculously convincing.

This is a scam, and illegal in civilized countries where your drug has to actually cure cancer before you sell it as a cure for cancer.

There's nothing illegal about selling apricot kernels. Nowhere on the site says that it cures cancer, and when I was talking to customers I wasn't even allowed to say the word "cancer". And before you outright say that it doesn't cure cancer maybe you should do a little research on the subject first. Chemotherapy isn't all that effective, if you haven't noticed, and is incredibly harmful to the body in the process. It's just the preferred treatment because it's so ridiculously expensive that tons of people make ludicrous amounts of money on it.

Again: I read that site's description of a "zapper". They are not reputable and should not be used as a source. Period. It's pseudoscientific garbage; even if apricot kernels make you immortal and give you x-ray vision, you're going to have to find better means by which to back it up. So far, you've got a total crackpot website, testimonials from when you worked at a company who sells them, and the site of a company who also makes money selling them.


As far as chemotherapy is concerned: Do you seriously think there's such an implicit or explicit conspiracy going on that a useless therapy is used even though it wreaks both long and short term havoc on pretty much the entire human body? That's bullshit, and if they really wanted to just make something ineffective that is expensive and sells well, they wouldn't formulate it in such a way that hurts you so much.

Chemotherapy is used because, despite being kind of horrible, it's some of the best treatment we have. Its efficacy depends on what sort of cancer you have, and isn't some sort of magical cure, but it is, in fact, useful.


Also, allow me to highlight this:

Nowhere on the site says that it cures cancer

The cancure link sure says it's an effective treatment!

As far as the site selling it is concerned: The only reason they don't make claims like that is because doing so is illegal. I would bet money that, given the opportunity, they would proudly proclaim all sorts of things, just like with other fruit-medicine fads (mangosteen, acai, etc.).

If a company can't make specific claims about what its product does, there are often very good reasons for it.
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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2011, 01:02:05 am »

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Mazonas, so sorry to hear about your kitty... please don't ruin your financial life for her, though. :( Think about what is best, not only for her, but for you as well. If there is no cure to her condition, then prolonging the struggle would not do either of you any good. Life has a way of dealing us shitty cards at times, but it's the hand we have to play. Do the right thing, and even if it's difficult, you'll have no regrets later on.
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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2011, 06:59:01 am »

I like his argument that "some of the testimony was ridiculously convincing". You can get people to testify that rock salt cures AIDS if you really want to. Especially if you work for a company that sells AIDS-curing rock salt.

Not to mention that if you have to rely on testimonials it means you don't have anything more solid to present.

In regards to the actual topic:

I really feel for you. A couple of months ago I had to take my cat to get put down - she was old, had lost a lot of weight and was very weak. Even then, it was still a difficult decision to make, and a sad one.

My only piece of advice would be if the cat does have feline HIV and you genuinely can't afford the treatment, it would be kinder to have the cat put down than to have it suffer.
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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2011, 08:11:18 pm »

I'd add something to this discussion, but coming from my mind... Well, let's just say that me and the rest of civilization don't agree on much. So if I said anything, you'd probably rage at me. So... just accept it. E'eryone dies at some point. Even cats.
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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2011, 09:09:20 pm »

I'd add something to this discussion, but I'll just say something vague to make me appear edgy and interesting instead. That way I can posture without actually contributing.
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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2011, 05:17:21 pm »

I had a cat with FIV. He lived quite long, 18 years or so. He was always sniffling and we had to look after him more. I hope it's that vs leukemia.

I wish you and your cat really well though. At the very least you've had great time together. Nothing lasts forever :x
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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2011, 05:40:48 pm »

I wouldn't doubt laetrile

You wouldn't doubt something that purports to prevent cancer without extensive studies being done first? That's kind of dangerous.
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Re: very poorly cat :(
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2011, 05:46:14 pm »

i have nothing to add to the discussion, i have a little kitten that had a nasty ear infection a couple months ago, it was harsh on my budget, but putting it to sleep was not an option at all. it wasn't a fraction as serious as your case seems, though
anyway, i'm posting to follow the thread
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