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[EveryZig]

Any dwarf that I have who sustains major injuries without dying quickly seems to get plane and then have this happen, sometimes with no 'need X' messages in the medical screen. They get faint then pale, then die in a season or two. Is there a way to prevent this?

[ext0l]

make some soap

[EveryZig]

I made some soap, but he was already 'pale'. Was it too late then?

[Sphalerite]

Soap is helpful to prevent infections, provided you have a hospital and a doctor to clean the injured dwarf's wounds before the infection sets in.  Once the wounds are infected, the dwarf needs to have a strong resistance to infection to survive.

[Marshall Burns]

From what I can tell, soap only *reduces* the chance of infection. Occasionally (but very infrequently) dwarves will get infected anyway.

[Untelligent]

My dwarves get infected all the time and they usually get over it. Just need some good doctors and some water around.

[dennislp3]

ive yet to make a working hospital...let alone good doctors lol....though I suppose I never get to far it seems >.<

[Hans Lemurson]

If you re-injure a dwarf with an infection, will the infected area get cleaned again after the dwarf is re-diagnosed?

[Hyndis]

A re-injury may work, but even then you're still not going to be able to save everyone. Remember, there are no antibiotics in DF.

Just like IRL without antibiotics infections were extremely lethal. Nearly all deaths due to warfare were not due to weapons, but due to disease. Minor injuries would often lead to lethal infections, or some sort of plague would spread amongst the camp.

[shmelse]

If you re-injure a dwarf with an infection, will the infected area get cleaned again after the dwarf is re-diagnosed?

I've wondered this as well. It never says on the health screen whether it's the whole dwarf that's getting cleaned or just the injured spot. It just says "cleaned with ... soap".  Does that mean they clean the whole dwarf every time? Or that they just clean diagnosed areas, but don't bother to list each one, since they all get cleaned at once?

[Girlinhat]

It appears to be only the affected area.  If you have a dwarf with multiple wounds, like upper and lower arm cut, then it generates two sets of clean, suture, dress orders.

[shmelse]

It appears to be only the affected area.  If you have a dwarf with multiple wounds, like upper and lower arm cut, then it generates two sets of clean, suture, dress orders.

Two sets of orders, yes, but all the clean orders get satisfied at once. If you look in the log, you'll see only one instance of "clean" but multiple sets of stitches and setting bones. That's what mad me curious; maybe they only clean once b/c they clean the whole dwarf under that order so there's no need to do it multiple times. Or maybe the cordite knows and only cleans the left lower leg and right upper arm. The problem is that although this is a legit question, I can't think of any way to test it...

[Girlinhat]

Too many variables.  There's A) Does it wash the whole body or just the wounded parts? and B) Is an infection helped by washing?

I suggest danger room testing.  Get an infected dwarf who's got a leg infection, and toss him in the danger room without greaves, then let him go to the hospital.  If they wash his leg and he's cured, then bingo.  Repeat the process, except leave his breastplate off, and if the leg infection isn't cured...

[shmelse]

Too many variables.  There's A) Does it wash the whole body or just the wounded parts? and B) Is an infection helped by washing?

I suggest danger room testing.  Get an infected dwarf who's got a leg infection, and toss him in the danger room without greaves, then let him go to the hospital.  If they wash his leg and he's cured, then bingo.  Repeat the process, except leave his breastplate off, and if the leg infection isn't cured...

Danger room testing is a good call. All of my "medical school" experience so far has involved a 2 story drop directly into my hospital, which makes it pretty hard to injury a specific body part w/o lots of pretty irritating saving/reloading just before he hits the ground. I'll have to try this out.

[Girlinhat]

For max protection purposes, use steel armor excluding one part, and keep in mind the areas that don't heal, namely toenails and teeth.  If a dwarf gets an infected toe, then he's screwed.  Try to injure a large region, such as upper leg, or perhaps internal organs via blunt damage without a breastplate.