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[Girlinhat]

A goblin soldier will not break free.  A goblin thief/babysnatcher will break free almost immediately.  But a spearman, you can cage them in the dining hall and a dwarf will gladly drag the goblin through the calm dining patrons without any trouble.  Once caged, the creature isn't on the map, but sort of "in limbo" in the cage.  Once chained, however, they have their pathfinding limited.  They will gladly attack anything within their 3x3 range, and will cause civilians to flee in terror, and military to attack.

A deconstructed/levered chain will create a loose chain on the floor and a "ghost image" on the creature's neck.  The one on the creature isn't actually anything, and makes no difference.

Thoughts: Start a fortress, chain and deconstruct an animal.  Use DFHack to become an adventurer, and attack said animal in the neck, or attempt to grapple with the chain.

[Funburns]

A bit of an old reply, but...

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What if you temporarily drain the water? Will the air-drowning serpent claim the nest and lay her eggs, giving you just enough time to refill her tank before she dies?

Doesn't seem to work.  I just tried it, had her directly on a nest box, drained the water till it was at 1/7 and she was drowning, then refilled it.  No claimed nest box, no sea serpent eggs.

If the water is what's causing the problem, you'd probably have to drain it to 0/7 to get results, but by that point the serpent would probably be dead.

I just idea'd! What if a 2x1x1 chamber with a nest box on one side and a serpent on the other were constructed so that each square had one pump constantly feeding it water and another constantly taking it away? The tiles would rapidly alternate between 0/7 and 1-7/7 depending how the intake was fed, which might be enough to somehow make the nest boxes available for serpent use long enough for one to claim it.

It probably wouldn't work, though, because the box will, at any given step of game time, be either dry and inaccessible to the serpent, or wet and disabled. Perhaps water disabling a nest box takes more than one step to occur? Could the unusually fast speed of water pumping confuse the game enough to allow this, through some method I'm not aware of? Maybe whether the nest box is built with absorbent materials was made to matter for this, even though holding booze and liquid water are two entirely different game mechanics? I just hate to see serpent farming go on the back burner.

[DG]

While wasting time in the wiki I followed a link to this remarkable thread. I was quickly inspired to honour Sphalerite's contribution to dwarven science.

All great science deserves to be commemorated with great art. It's a slow work day so I've put my ball point to some use.

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Yeah, I misspelt serpent the third time.

[Sphalerite]

Haha, that's awesome.

[davros]

Everything in this topic is awesome. It needs a sticky.

[MagmaMcFry]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_%28Internet%29#Necrobumps

[Mobotium]

Humm, this gave me an Idea, Il go and make a invader race that breaths underwater, make some sharks and sea-serpents as pets and do a uber underwater batle!

Nice thread btw, extremely dwarfy 

[gunnarig]

God of the ocean! i suggest turning on invasions again and make a moat with white sharks in them it is something i have wet dreams about

[Ifeno]

one of the greatest threads ive read in a looooong time

[Zinc23]

I think that Sphalerite...   Is GOD.  Nah, just kidding.  But this is MAAAAAGMAAAA worthy were necro still here.

[Karakzon]

small thought: if you got wild crundles set up in a simular breeding programn, had the crundle babys run off into an antichamber whos floor was a bridge, then retract said bride so they fall into your tame GCS pen, would that make an efficient silk farm?

[Wannazzaki]

In the same way chaining a goblin up and having GCS's fire at it through fortifications is

[Sphalerite]

Can't breed wild crundles in the current version.  Crundles are egg-layers, and only tame animals will claim nest boxes.

It's also impossible to breed sea serpents in the current version without modding, since nest boxes don't work underwater.

[Karakzon]

ah right. some sort of small harmless animal is required xP but i think the princable is the same.
-i tried the fortifications one, and others, dindt work. i dislike getting my cutsy wootsy giant venom driping horror of the deap hurt-

[Sphalerite]

I haven't tried silk farming yet, but I have heard that a GCS won't spray silk at something it can't path to.  If there is no path from the GCS to your dropped animals, it won't shoot at them, even if it can see them through fortifications.  There are ways around this, I've seen some plans for GCS silk farms that use locked doors or something similar so that the GCS thinks there's a path to the target.  I'd try it out myself, but I have yet to encounter a single GCS in any of the forts I've run in the current version.