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[ArchAIngel]

Apparently there was.

And since movie makers can't make games it makes sense it's up to the game creators to make movies. What could go wrong?

Seems to have worked out decently enough for Kojima?

[heydude6]

Kojima had was surrounded by a bunch of people who's job was to keep him under control. Those people began to disappear near the end of his tenure at Konami, which resulted in the clusterfucks of MGS 4 and 5.

The original 2D metal gear games (before they added the "solid" suffix) were also more gameplay focused and didn't have as much story. Kojima had at least some experience making normal games before he became a "movie" director.

[ZBridges]

Kojima had was surrounded by a bunch of people who's job was to keep him under control. Those people began to disappear near the end of his tenure at Konami, which resulted in the clusterfucks of MGS 4 and 5.

The original 2D metal gear games (before they added the "solid" suffix) were also more gameplay focused and didn't have as much story. Kojima had at least some experience making normal games before he became a "movie" director.

The last game Kojima made for Konami was Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain.  It has a 93 on metacritic.com, which the website says is "universal acclaim."  In what way is universal acclaim a clusterfuck?

[hector13]

There’s a great deal of story in the Metal Gear game’s on the MSX. Hell, there’s a classic Kojima length cutscene in the middle of the second one in which Snake is chatting to one of the other characters for backstory, only to make it a bit more poignant later when that character is killed, and who they get killed by.

Big Boss and Gray Fox are from those games, and they’re important characters in the series.

MGS4 is the weakest game in the series, but it’s not bad by any stretch of the imagination.

MGS5 was unfinished because of Konami, not Kojima. Even then, the game is still fun in and of itself, you just won’t get a payoff at the end because the story is not finished.

[Lord Shonus]

MSG4 has a low amount of gameplay for the length, and what we get isn't that great - it really felt like a step down from 3. The story had a number of flaws (although there were some brilliant avoidances of normal flaws in the concepts) and did too good a job of tying everything together.

[hector13]

MSG4 has a low amount of gameplay for the length, and what we get isn't that great - it really felt like a step down from 3. The story had a number of flaws (although there were some brilliant avoidances of normal flaws in the concepts) and did too good a job of tying everything together.

It’s the final game of the series chronologically.

It’s not really a clusterfuck though, even if it isn’t very good.

[Naturegirl1999]

I remember a few years ago when I was looking up Mantis related bosses in video games, (was researching preying mantids at the time) and learned in one of the Metal Gear games there’s a boss that takes control of your controller, causing you to need to get a second controller to fight with. Said boss’s name was Mantis and he had telekinetic powers. I think it would be interesting if more games broke the 4th wall, making you pay attention to reality as well as the game

[Lord Shonus]

MSG4 has a low amount of gameplay for the length, and what we get isn't that great - it really felt like a step down from 3. The story had a number of flaws (although there were some brilliant avoidances of normal flaws in the concepts) and did too good a job of tying everything together.

It’s the final game of the series chronologically.

It’s not really a clusterfuck though, even if it isn’t very good.

By doing too good a job, I mean that it literally tied "everything" together. Pretty much every named older character was retconned revealed to be a Patriot or otherwise integral to the single plotline.

[LordBaal]

It was awesome. In fact the game keep track of a few things, if you saved a lot before that point Mantis told you a insecure coward, if you saved few times or none it taunted you of being risksome and careless.

If you keep the controller plugged on the 1st player slot Mantis not only fucked up the actions the buttons did, it also had a unfair advantage and reacted almost perfectly against your every move. So you had to plug the control on the 2dn player slot whenever the game gave a video-lost error like screen.

[hector13]

He is meant to be psychic you know. He also commented on other Konami games you played if you had a save file on the same memory card.

You could still win with it plugged into the first slot, you just had to call the colonel many times, and then shoot some busts.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Pretty much every named older character was retconned revealed to be a Patriot or otherwise integral to the single plotline.

?

There aren't any human Patriots. That was the whole reveal, that they were AIs.

[LordBaal]

He is meant to be psychic you know. He also commented on other Konami games you played if you had a save file on the same memory card.

You could still win with it plugged into the first slot, you just had to call the colonel many times, and then shoot some busts.

Yes, I said it was super awesome and inspiring. I did play it a lot Metal Gear Solid in the PSOne back then.

At the time it was also very out of the box, and in fact I cant think of much games if any at all that had something like that after.

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[LordBaal]

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We're no Strangers to love
YoU kNow the rules anD so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this fROm any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you uP
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lIe aNd hurt you
We've known eAch other for so long
Your heart's Been aching but yOu're Too shy To say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna pLay it
And if you ask mE how I'm feeling
....

[Naturegirl1999]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

We're no Strangers to love
YoU kNow the rules anD so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this fROm any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you uP
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lIe aNd hurt you
We've known eAch other for so long
Your heart's Been aching but yOu're Too shy To say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna pLay it
And if you ask mE how I'm feeling
....

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We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thiNking of
You wouldn'T gEt this fRom any othEr guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and deSerT you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lIe aNd hurt you
We've known each other for so lonG
Your heart's Been aching but you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
....