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[TempAcc]

Ye, the worst thing I've seen so far is some dweeb on twitter posting pictures of himself cutting and blaming trump for it yesterday. No actual suicide reports, at least not any I've seen.

[Neonivek]

There's a news story somewhere about something like 8 or so trans children committing suicide because Trump won. I think it's a bit of an over-reaction.

It is. But that didn't really happen because of trump, exactly, though him and the GOP platform that's got stripping the civil and legal rights of LGBT folks as a plank definitely don't help. More a problem with pence, who has literally diverted government funding towards torturing LGBT folks.

Said it before, said it again. Yeah, this stuff is a bit much. But it's pretty damn understandable why it's happening. Probably going to when you elect someone to high office that has funded members of the minority in question being tortured to the point they commit suicide.

Suicide very often follows patterns.

For example more people commit suicide after a report of suicide.

It isn't that the report drove them to suicide but rather that suicidal people are often reluctant.

So no it isn't an "Overreaction" it is just a trigger.

[Frumple]

There's been at least 8, TA, apparently.

And sho, the stuff about supporting conversion therapy's pretty substantiated, last I checked (i.e. about a minute ago). Probably worded something wrong, but there's no question that the practice itself, which he advocated for to whatever degree, is what it is, or that he's been willing to speak for allowing it. He's slime, so yeah, he hasn't actually gone out and yelled zap the gays or somethin', but any support for that shit is too far. Even if you're trying to worm your way out of admitting support for the most egregious parts of the practice (such as the electroshock stuff), it's still something that has been regularly shown to severely fuck up the people that it's inflicted on. There ain't much mitigation you can do when it comes to how bad the practice is.

Till he actually comes out on camera rejecting the practice outright, m'not particularly inclined to giving him slack, m'self.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

Yeah, I read about someone who went through conversion therapy. It was basically emotional abuse.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Pence is also the man who passed a law requiring women to hold funerals for their miscarriages and abortions.

Which while somewhat less on the harm scale, is way, way fucking higher on the creepy and insane scales.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

What the fuck? Nobody is required, or should be required, to hold a funeral for anybody.

[TheBiggerFish]

What the fuck? Nobody is required, or should be required, to hold a funeral for anybody.

They aren't.  Government really really really can't compel speech.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

Is that bill still in effect?

Edit: it actually just says that dead 'baby' tissue needs to be burned or buried, and that the parents must pay for this. Not quite a funeral.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It also includes embalming for burial.

And no, it doesn't require a "funeral" in the emotional sense because even a totalitarian government would have issues forcing that, but the rhetoric of the bill is to ensure "they get funerals".

[Eric Blank]

That at least isnt malicious, to wish that human remains be treated with some degree of respect, even if you dont think the deceased was ever alive or even human. I'd expect the abortion clinic to pay for it, though, not the patients. That seems more socialist.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

That at least isnt malicious

Are you sure you understand the idea behind all this?

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

That at least isnt malicious, to wish that human remains be treated with some degree of respect, even if you dont think the deceased was ever alive or even human. I'd expect the abortion clinic to pay for it, though, not the patients. That seems more socialist.

Actually, upon reading it again, it seems that the abortion clinic must usually pay for the cremation/burial, but they get to choose one "standard" burial method, and if the parents choose another option then they must pay for it themselves.

As for malice, good intentions don't matter. What matters is that they are forcing people to cremate their 8-week-old miscarried embryos. Why the fuck should the government do that?

[Yoink]

What the fuck? Nobody is required, or should be required, to hold a funeral for anybody.

Unless they put the responsibility on you in their Will... actually I'm not sure if that's legally binding or not.

Fakeedit:

Actually, upon reading it again, it seems that the abortion clinic must usually pay for the cremation/burial, but they get to choose one "standard" burial method, and if the parents choose another option then they must pay for it themselves.

Wait, why would they be bothered wanting a different method anyway?

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

What the fuck? Nobody is required, or should be required, to hold a funeral for anybody.

Unless they put the responsibility on you in their Will... actually I'm not sure if that's legally binding or not.

It's probably not, and fetuses cannot make wills anyway.

Fakeedit:

Actually, upon reading it again, it seems that the abortion clinic must usually pay for the cremation/burial, but they get to choose one "standard" burial method, and if the parents choose another option then they must pay for it themselves.

Wait, why would they be bothered wanting a different method anyway?

That's the point - this has been exaggerated somewhat.

[Yoink]

...fetuses cannot make wills anyway.

Obviously, but you said "anybody", emphasis included.