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[Rolan7]

  I stopped regular donations to Toady with 2012, and will resume when the source is open.

No offense meant or anything, but you will probably wait forever since he has stated numerous times how he's not going to make open source.

Eh, I think he will eventually.  Probably when donations drop low enough that it's an unsustainable project.
I mean, right now, I'm outvoted.  People are happy to support it as it is.  I'm simply waiting, and occasionally arguing that it would be much better if it were open.  And I think he would actually get more donations if the game was made accessible by open-source contributors, but who knows.  Maybe giving those contributors literally no support is the best way for the game to succeed.

@Putnam
It made the entire military system unusable for DF veterans, without extensive learning of a new unintuitive and pointless system.

1. that was 2010
2. a lot of the issue was that it was buggy as hell, which it really isn't anymore and it's basically in a fine enough position that you can almost fire-and-forget with it now

1: Ah, my mistake
2: Well no, the interface makes no fucking sense if you just want to make a dwarf stop running away from a rabbit.
And it barely makes sense if you want to make some dwarves into a squad and have them train.  Just... come on, look at how many people didn't get it.  It's not intuitive.  It's absurd.  The solution CAN be memorized, that doesn't make it good.

[ChairmanPoo]

About the interface: TBH I see no trouble in learning at least the basics. About the most troublesome aspect to me is  army and training but then again I've never bothered too much with that because I favor impregnability and traps over having an army.

The biggest single problem with DF for me is the same as ever: FPS death. Less severe now with my i5, but still present. I still have to consider carefully where to embark&etc.

[penguinofhonor]

Tarn Adams sold out, man. Such a shame.

[TempAcc]

Eh, don't know about open source DF. I'd personaly be a bit miffed if whats basically the work of ~10 years of my life was just given away to the public. I can understand why he wouldn't do it.

[Putnam]

2: Well no, the interface makes no fucking sense if you just want to make a dwarf stop running away from a rabbit.

An update from a year or two ago (like, 0.40.14 or something, maybe?) allows you to add dwarves to squads from the [v]iew screen, so that's a lot easier now.

And it barely makes sense if you want to make some dwarves into a squad and have them train.  Just... come on, look at how many people didn't get it.  It's not intuitive.  It's absurd.  The solution CAN be memorized, that doesn't make it good.

[m]ilitary->[c]reate squad->put the dwarves in a squad->[a]lerts->highlight active/trainining->set the squad you just made to that

that's all you need to do, anyone who talks about setting the minimum to two or they won't train or whatever is just wrong

[Akura]

On a related note, one of my friends had Win 10 tell him 'All your files are exactly where you left them' on boot. That seems suspicious.

If your friend liked the Microsoft Games of earlier OS versions (Solitaire, Minesweeper, Freecell etc.), they're in for a disappointment. The games are replaced by a version that either takes a paid subscription or shows unskippable ads before play. Even grabbing the old games onto a flash drive before upgrading won't work: the files have an OS version check.

What.

That pretty much seals it, definitely not getting Windows 10 here.

[Cthulufaic]

I mean, its also got a memory leak, which is the reason I restart my pc every day now.  There are fixes which seemed to help a lot.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalěs]

I stopped regular donations to Toady with 2012, and will resume when the source is open.

Umm...

If you want it to be open-source, then pay up. This is literally his only income. If he's feeling good about it for quite a while, he might give some of it up. If he's worried, not a bit of code will be posted.

((is a hypocrite because doesn't donate))

((isn't actually a hypocrite because doesn't actually have money))

[TD1]

I paid once, but I don't have all that much money either. Still, it's probably the only game I've voluntarily paid money for.

[TheBiggerFish]

Once I have money, I will probably give Toady some of it.

[miauw62]

i think open source df would be a good thing overall. however, im pretty worried about what the community would do to the game. in all likelihood there would be one or two main forks, but it also seems very likely that they would quickly be consumed with bloat and have the code quality go down a lot very quickly.

open source games have to be carefully managed with regards to what features to merge. crawl is a good example of properly managing an open source game.

maybe i should start my own fork/reich when/if the code is made open source and see if anybody is willing to put up with endless game design arguments and help me with it.

[Egan_BW]

I have neither donated, nor do I have the money, nor do I play DF regularly. However I DO have strong opinions on the matter, so allow me to blabber about them to you.
...Later.

[Gentlefish]

Heh. Speaking of upgrading to Win10, I actually physically can't because I'm running an OEM windows 8.1. So while it bugs me to update ever day, it won't untill I feed it an activation code because I changed out my motherboard for one whose PCE-I sockets aren't fried (by my own fault, admittedly)

[smjjames]

Carly Fiorinas snippet of a song about Ted Cruz's daughters is kind of a wtf.....

[Tawa]

I intend to send Toady a couple bucks for his birthday sometime. He's more than earned it. I just don't have the cash to send him any quite yet. :v