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« Reply #89445 on: November 06, 2015, 06:49:25 pm »

I was looking up Jem and the Holograms information (The GOOD Cartoon not the DREADFUL movie)

And I found out Jetta (a villain in the show) was originally going to be Black to give the Misfits (the villain group) some diversity.

But what happened was that at the time (late 80s early 90s) it was considered immoral for non-whites to be villains. So they made her British instead. (also in the Jem comics, they changed her back to Black and still kept her as British)

GOODNESS have we come a long way... and yet, when I think about it, we still see this today. I am trying to think of a single villain in Teen Titans who wasn't white or non-human.

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HOLY goodness... I am racking my brain to think of a single non-white human villain from a cartoon within the last 25 years but I can't think of almost any.

The ONLY one I have is Black Manta from Young Justice (he never took off his helmet in Justice League) and one of the Wrecking Crew in the Avengers cartoons.
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« Reply #89446 on: November 06, 2015, 06:53:14 pm »

How did you find that? Is funny.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #89447 on: November 06, 2015, 07:06:44 pm »

I was looking up Jem and the Holograms information (The GOOD Cartoon not the DREADFUL movie)

And I found out Jetta (a villain in the show) was originally going to be Black to give the Misfits (the villain group) some diversity.

But what happened was that at the time (late 80s early 90s) it was considered immoral for non-whites to be villains. So they made her British instead. (also in the Jem comics, they changed her back to Black and still kept her as British)

GOODNESS have we come a long way... and yet, when I think about it, we still see this today. I am trying to think of a single villain in Teen Titans who wasn't white or non-human.

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HOLY goodness... I am racking my brain to think of a single non-white human villain from a cartoon within the last 25 years but I can't think of almost any.

The ONLY one I have is Black Manta from Young Justice (he never took off his helmet in Justice League) and one of the Wrecking Crew in the Avengers cartoons.

In that awful Flash Gordon tv reboot they had a few years back they made Ming an ordinary white guy.
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« Reply #89448 on: November 06, 2015, 07:10:45 pm »

Minorites as villains = das raycis

Also Kesha as the misfits = Make mo money mo sequels

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« Reply #89449 on: November 06, 2015, 07:15:18 pm »

Minorites as villains = das raycis

Also Kesha as the misfits = Make mo money mo sequels

Goodness... Kesha as Pizzazz was just so perfect I WISH The Jem movie was about that... instead of just making it a sequel hook that kind of thankfully won't happen.
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #89450 on: November 06, 2015, 07:19:00 pm »

They couldn't afford all the Kedollar for that Kemeosha

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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #89451 on: November 06, 2015, 07:26:34 pm »

I was looking up Jem and the Holograms information (The GOOD Cartoon not the DREADFUL movie)

And I found out Jetta (a villain in the show) was originally going to be Black to give the Misfits (the villain group) some diversity.

But what happened was that at the time (late 80s early 90s) it was considered immoral for non-whites to be villains. So they made her British instead. (also in the Jem comics, they changed her back to Black and still kept her as British)

GOODNESS have we come a long way... and yet, when I think about it, we still see this today. I am trying to think of a single villain in Teen Titans who wasn't white or non-human.

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HOLY goodness... I am racking my brain to think of a single non-white human villain from a cartoon within the last 25 years but I can't think of almost any.

Jafar from Disney's Alladin, but there weren't *any* white characters in that movie..

EDIT:
The same goes for the villain from Mulan, who was asian like every other character in the movie.
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« Reply #89452 on: November 06, 2015, 07:28:05 pm »

Jafar from Disney's Alladin, but there weren't *any* white characters in that movie.

That seems to be a major exception to the rule.

The Proud Family for example had black villains but very few characters weren't black.
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« Reply #89453 on: November 06, 2015, 07:33:19 pm »

Just thought of another one. There have been a few X-Men cartoon shows and IIRC Magneto is Jewish, so depending on if you consider Jewish people white there's that (although Magneto's more of an Anti-Villain than a villain-villain)
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« Reply #89454 on: November 06, 2015, 07:40:13 pm »

Just thought of another one. There have been a few X-Men cartoon shows and IIRC Magneto is Jewish, so depending on if you consider Jewish people white there's that (although Magneto's more of an Anti-Villain than a villain-villain)

That is outside knowledge though. I think in the Cartoons as far as they let you be aware Magneto is American/White. Though I don't know if it is ever stated if he is of Jewish Race, only Jewish Religion in all the sources.
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« Reply #89455 on: November 06, 2015, 07:41:59 pm »

it's english, just not your english

It's related to English, but I'm pretty sure it's closer to the Newspeak family than to true English
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« Reply #89456 on: November 06, 2015, 07:43:16 pm »

Just thought of another one. There have been a few X-Men cartoon shows and IIRC Magneto is Jewish, so depending on if you consider Jewish people white there's that (although Magneto's more of an Anti-Villain than a villain-villain)
Movieneto is no Doctor Doom. Movieneto is more an extremist than villain. Also Doctor Doom is gypsy which although white is a global minority within national minorities within local minorities.

Just thought of another one. There have been a few X-Men cartoon shows and IIRC Magneto is Jewish, so depending on if you consider Jewish people white there's that (although Magneto's more of an Anti-Villain than a villain-villain)
That is outside knowledge though. I think in the Cartoons as far as they let you be aware Magneto is American.
Is Movieneto using old fluff or making new fluff? Could just be origin stories differing from different story writers

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« Reply #89457 on: November 06, 2015, 07:50:52 pm »

Speaking of spoopy skeleton war WTFs: The Quinnspirator is publishing her memoir (is she that old?) and it's going to be made into a movie.

Also, MGTOW sez beastly wimmin turn men into zombies with their noxious secretions. (Please, God, let this be Poe...)
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« Reply #89458 on: November 06, 2015, 07:52:58 pm »

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« Reply #89459 on: November 06, 2015, 07:55:02 pm »

With good reason.
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