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[Catastrophic lolcats]

I ... I just woke up to find the Crusader Kings II forums in flames apparently caused by Aztecs.

I'm not angry at the concept of an optional alternate history DLC, no matter how silly the concept of it is. I am a more concerned with the lack of focus of Paradox in improving the base game. The game has been in the worst balance state yet since LoR and is unplayable for me without mods.

I think another thing that confuses me is the references and parallels to European colonisation of the American. Looking at the screenshots in the post, I'm not sure if it's meant to be a cruel biting satire or a joke that may be in bad taste.

I really really hope that this have no new features introduced and that it's just a rework Mongol Horde invasion event. There's going to be a whole bunch of angry people if the game introduces pagan mechanics that modders might be able to salvage for the base game forcing people to pick it up.

So in closing: Alt history DLC isn't bad, but released at a terrible time where CKII needs more love than ever before.

[Denzi]

Adding an invading faction with untouchable homelands on a previously protected coast is not a 'minor' change.

It's a copy-paste of an existing faction, does not add any new features you have to have it enabled to use (like retinues), and has an easy way to opt-out. It's minor.

[Tarran]

Maybe we can even play as the Aztecs!

Nope. Doomdark or King said that you can't play as the Aztecs, yet.

But you can always hope.

[mainiac]

edit:  Also, Advanced Aztecs?  With technology unavailable to even the smartest Europeans?  Sounds like you really could just stick little green aliens into the game for that matter...

Gee, it's almost like it's a fantasy setting that is in no way supposed to be realistic.

[Leatra]

Maybe we can even play as the Aztecs!

Nope. Doomdark or King said that you can't play as the Aztecs, yet.

But you can always hope.

Ah, well. I'll settle for playing as Mongolians and fightining against Aztecs for the dominance of Europe. This continent is too small for two invading nations.

[TripJack]

we'll have to wait for the dlc dlc that unlocks aztecs as playable faction

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Maybe we can even play as the Aztecs!

Nope. Doomdark or King said that you can't play as the Aztecs, yet.

But you can always hope.

Ah, well. I'll settle for playing as Mongolians and fightining against Aztecs for the dominance of Europe. This continent is too small for two invading nations.

You can only play as the Mongols once they've converted to a major religion like Islam or Orthodox. I believe once they've converted they also lose all of their unique bonuses like free doom stacks, tribal invasions and their AI "settles".

[lordcooper]

People going crazy about this amazes me.  At what point in history did Spain conquer Russia?  That's happened in a few of my games.

[Leatra]

Maybe we can even play as the Aztecs!

Nope. Doomdark or King said that you can't play as the Aztecs, yet.

But you can always hope.

Ah, well. I'll settle for playing as Mongolians and fightining against Aztecs for the dominance of Europe. This continent is too small for two invading nations.

You can only play as the Mongols once they've converted to a major religion like Islam or Orthodox. I believe once they've converted they also lose all of their unique bonuses like free doom stacks, tribal invasions and their AI "settles".

Well, damn.

I really wanted a dlc that unlocks Mongols and Pagan nations.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

There's a whole bunch of mods that "unlock" pagans to be playable. They of course lack many events and decisions but there's a few dedicated mods giving pagans more flavour. There's a major one for the Norse but I don't know if there's on that flesh out the Mongols at all.

It's very likely that the next expansion will be focused on pagans. The other possibilities include fleshing out the Catholic church/theologies or a republic/economy expansion.

[Rakonas]

Not to be that guy, but do you guys seriously not know that it takes one line of code to make pagans playable, and that it's been that way since the first patch or two after the game's release? Mongols are playable as pagans thusly, and I seriously doubt that it won't be the case for the Aztecs.
Anyway I think this DLC is stupid because I really want a dlc that expands theocracies, as I want to play a game where I realize the dream of Gregory VII.

[BigD145]

Not to be that guy, but do you guys seriously not know that it takes one line of code to make pagans playable, and that it's been that way since the first patch or two after the game's release? Mongols are playable as pagans thusly, and I seriously doubt that it won't be the case for the Aztecs.
Anyway I think this DLC is stupid because I really want a dlc that expands theocracies, as I want to play a game where I realize the dream of Gregory VII.

You want a DLC that has a different governmental system but you think DLC's for Pagans and Mongols would be a waste? You do know they have different governmental systems, right? Yes, you can make Pagans playable, but they'll use events that are not Pagan oriented.

[Denzi]

Not to be that guy, but do you guys seriously not know that it takes one line of code to make pagans playable, and that it's been that way since the first patch or two after the game's release? Mongols are playable as pagans thusly, and I seriously doubt that it won't be the case for the Aztecs.
Anyway I think this DLC is stupid because I really want a dlc that expands theocracies, as I want to play a game where I realize the dream of Gregory VII.

Changing one line of code doesn't make playable pagans. Changing one line of code allows you to play as a christian ruling over a pagan territory, only pagan in name.

[krisslanza]

I want my damn female commanders already Paradox.

[a1s]

I want my damn female commanders already Paradox.

Like who? Seriously, do you know any medieval woman even close to being a commander of anything, except Joan of Arc? There were a good number of female rulers on/behind thrones, but commanding was a "man's job".