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[Saposhiente]

Hey! Two wrongs make one wrong apparently. It lets you soil farm without mud. Combined with the shadow of the adamantine pillar, this could be sustainable sans mining, with some help from The Talking Experiment. Wall them together with a few beds and a farm plot...

Incidentally, if you define it as "The topmost value of nothing" then Maximum Zero must actually be Negative Infinity! Just, by the way.

[MaximumZero]

Above ground farming is always available with no mud.

[Saposhiente]

Its bugged on this version. That or my other fortressed is re-bugged.

[Saposhiente]

Interesting... The space is marked "Inside dark subterranean" but it wants above-ground seeds.

Update: All the demons except four salt ghosts have disappeared. Said ghosts are just sitting on level -5, not moving.

[MaximumZero]

Interesting... The space is marked "Inside dark subterranean" but it wants above-ground seeds.

Okay, see, now that's interesting. Also, WTF!?

Incidentally, if you define it as "The topmost value of nothing" then Maximum Zero must actually be Negative Infinity! Just, by the way.

The mathematical maximum value for zero is actually .49999repeating. (As far as I'm aware. Math majors are free to flame me.) Numbers .5 and above round to 1. Basically, my name is rule of cool.

[MaximumZero]

Its bugged on this version. That or my other fortressed is re-bugged.

Are you farming below ground crops on the surface? I don't seem to understand the situation.

[Saposhiente]

Incidentally, if you define it as "The topmost value of nothing" then Maximum Zero must actually be Negative Infinity! Just, by the way.

The mathematical maximum value for zero is actually .49999repeating. (As far as I'm aware. Math majors are free to flame me.) Numbers .5 and above round to 1. Basically, my name is rule of cool.

Thats Maximum (round(x)=0)
Being the maximum value of no set means that for every set of numbers, there is at least one number greater than it. So, actually, I was wrong. It's not Negative Infinity. Its -(1/0), because 1/0 is greater than every number, including infinity.

[Saposhiente]

Its bugged on this version. That or my other fortressed is re-bugged.

Are you farming below ground crops on the surface? I don't seem to understand the situation.

The shadow of the adamantine pillar provides "Inside dark subterranean" spaces because there was (and is) ground above them on embark.

[Saposhiente]

Another note: Hitting 'zoom to location' on the screams brings me to lv -41

[Solace]

1/0 is greater than every number, including infinity.

Actually 1/0 is infinity, which is also not a number.

[Saposhiente]

1/0 is greater than every number, including infinity.

Actually 1/0 is infinity, which is also not a number.

The real question here is: What is infinity times zero?

[ECrownofFire]

1/0 is greater than every number, including infinity.

Actually 1/0 is infinity, which is also not a number.

1/0 is undefined, unless you use some weird alternate mathematical model. But with a normal number line, it's undefined.

[Dermonster]

"Can you tell me what's eight, times four, divided by zero?"
"lim epsilon approaching zero plus of eight times four divided by epsilon... 10:47AM on Sunday."

THERE IS NO RELEVANCE.

[Saposhiente]

Re-summary post for Snow Leopard
Seed on .12 = No spire
Savegame on .12 = Previously observed behavior with dwarves refusing to pickup equipment. Other observations:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Farming on "Inside dark subterranean" soil in the shadow of the pillar asks for above-ground seeds.
Demons mysteriously disappear near lv 48. For sub observations, view second spoiler.
All demons excepts four salt ghosts ceased to exist, the latter of which are hanging around on level -5
Zooming on screams from below points to lv -41
13 FPS TAKE THAT EVERYONE

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Lv 49

Lv 48

Lv 47

I notice that 48 is the first level to have no "open space" just floor and undiscovered. I also notice that the only overlapping tiles are "Open space" on the level below. Lastly, 49 has nothing but undiscovered, as do the levels above it.
Witnessed existence failures: Two white phantoms stopped at 48 and 47 for a while, and then poofed; and one pearl demon on 47 poofed instead of going up at the time he otherwise would (I counted steps).

Now starting Try 3: Dentio's save, on .12

1/0 is greater than every number, including infinity.

Actually 1/0 is infinity, which is also not a number.

1/0 is undefined, unless you use some weird alternate mathematical model. But with a normal number line, it's undefined.

That depends on your definition of infinity times zero. If it's zero, 1/0 is undefined (but greater than infinity). If it's any number (= 0/0) then x/0 = infinity for x > 0

[Dante]

All these demons "ceasing to exist"...

In the new version, all creatures disappear from the units screen if they also disappear into unexplored areas on the map. It seems more likely to me that this is what is happening. And in a file so glitched, it could even have bits of the map recorded as being unexplored even if you can see the tiles.

And even more likely if they're all disappearing at exactly the same point.