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RCIX

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Control what items get encrusted?
« on: July 10, 2010, 05:07:35 am »

How do i get my jeweler to encrust specific items?
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Re: Control what items get encrusted?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 05:19:16 am »

Try to forbidden every item close to him except the one that you want to be encrusted. Or locking the room with a lever with just the dwarfs, the workshop and the item.
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Re: Control what items get encrusted?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 04:35:09 pm »

I like building isolated workshops.  Make them big, make stockpiles for food, drink, bones, metal, and gems.  Place a bed for each dwarf that'll be involved in the process, and then make a one sized stockpile that only accepts the type of object you want.  So if it's a masterwork statue, make a masterwork statue stockpile and then lock them in the room. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 06:24:52 pm »

I just build a jeweler shop in a special room a bit apart from the rest, mainly to not have the jeweler pick in a stockpile in a lower level of the fort since my forts are vertical by design.
I put a small stockpile of the stuff i want to encrust like best quality table/chair for my dining room (you can set the stockpile by type of furniture and quality) next to the jeweler shop. The jeweler will always pick the furniture the nearest to him, so the ones in the stockpile near the shop. You can also make it so only your best gem setter work in this workshop so you are sure you'll get best quality end product.
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010, 02:52:17 am »

edit: nvm, i'm stupid.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2010, 03:01:38 am by RCIX »
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010, 04:42:30 am »

It would be nice if you could just mark a particular item for encrusting, as you do with melting metals and slaughtering animals.
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010, 04:59:58 am »

It would be nice if you could just mark a particular item for encrusting, as you do with melting metals and slaughtering animals.
This will probably come with the ability to choose materials to manufacture items out of.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2010, 05:05:46 am »

The jeweler will always pick the furniture the nearest to him, so the ones in the stockpile near the shop.

This does not at *all* seem to be true in my current experience.

I suspect it *could* work like engraving, mining and other such jobs -- going by X coordinate from west to east, regardless of Z-level (or however precisely it works -- still not totally clear on it, except that it produces some absurdly inefficient results).  Because in my situation, I have several Z-levels of storerooms above and below my jeweler's shop, and there are some stockpiles of choice things I put 10 or so tiles away on the same Z-level that he has ignored with the most steadfast and consistent faith. Instead, to my chagrin, he goes up 3, 4 or 5 Z-levels and 40-50 steps to get different pieces of furniture, every time.  Little bastard.

Yeah, designating items for decoration similar to how melt designation is done would be a very, very good thing.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2010, 05:08:28 am by ChickenLips »
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Re: Control what items get encrusted?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2010, 08:40:11 am »

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This does not at *all* seem to be true in my current experience.

I suspect it *could* work like engraving, mining and other such jobs -- going by X coordinate from west to east, regardless of Z-level (or however precisely it works -- still not totally clear on it, except that it produces some absurdly inefficient results).  Because in my situation, I have several Z-levels of storerooms above and below my jeweler's shop, and there are some stockpiles of choice things I put 10 or so tiles away on the same Z-level that he has ignored with the most steadfast and consistent faith. Instead, to my chagrin, he goes up 3, 4 or 5 Z-levels and 40-50 steps to get different pieces of furniture, every time.  Little bastard.

Yeah, designating items for decoration similar to how melt designation is done would be a very, very good thing.

That is because he will always choose the item closest item in absolute terms disregarding floors and pathing.

Go ahead and try it with a stonecrafter. Same thing. He will pick stones in a cubic space closets to him rather than show a preference for the same z level.

In the dwarf's mind. something right below him at -3 z levels is closer than something on the same floor at 10 tiles away. In absolute numbers it makes sense if you factor out the walking distance.
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Re: Control what items get encrusted?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2010, 12:06:53 pm »

In the dwarf's "mind", something right below him at -3 z levels is closer than something on the same floor at 10 tiles away. In absolute numbers it makes sense if you factor out the walking distance.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2010, 01:18:52 pm »

That's it.  Off with my jeweler's head!
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Re: Control what items get encrusted?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 01:32:13 pm »

Make a burrow that includes your gem stockpile, the workshops, and your masterwork platinum statue stockpile. And food/drink and bedrooms. Assign jewelcrafter. Profit!
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2010, 04:10:01 pm »

Actually, I did that, but he seems to be happy to run outside-of-burrow to grab improvable items.  I suppose it ends up requiring forbidden-doors isolation to get him to stop that.



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Re: Control what items get encrusted?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2010, 07:30:07 pm »

Also, note that you can encrust an item one time per type of gem you have. I've seen numerous people make that mistake.
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Re: Control what items get encrusted?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2010, 07:55:40 pm »

And they just love to go wild on some irrelevant piece of furniture, leaving you with a 22k grate -- no, a 22k $<<-gypsum grate->>$.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2010, 07:58:27 pm by ChickenLips »
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