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[Aklyon]

Fuck you, graphics chip. You can play everything else perfectly fine (For a specific definition of perfectly fine, it even ran SotSII before its enhanced edition for fucks sake!), but you don't have whatever XNA profile you need for Reus? Should've asked for a goddamn desktop back then instead, at least I'd be able to upgrade it past you and your useless crappiness of low graphics settings and terribleness and...

[10ebbor10]

Try to restart steam, mayhaps. Small chance something went wrong during the download.

That or either the devs or the steam support pressed the wrong button.

[Scoops Novel]

Apologies for carrying on too long Misko, i hoped that things hadn't yet reached that point and I'll admit i thought/think you'd heard it all before but thought it was worth having properly considered. Incidentally, how many games do most of you own?

[ChairmanPoo]

I have to ask: why get Reus through Steam? I'ts avaiable DRM-free from GOG

[Nadaka]

I own over 200 games. at least 50 of which I have not played at all, and several of which I own multiple copies of (warcraft, warcraft II, starcraft, brood war, diablo, diablo II, outpost, X3, baldurs gate, icewind dale, maybe a few others)

[Scoops Novel]

I own over 200 games. at least 50 of which I have not played at all, and several of which I own multiple copies of (warcraft, warcraft II, starcraft, brood war, diablo, diablo II, outpost, X3, baldurs gate, icewind dale, maybe a few others)

What are your thoughts on that? Incidentally, how many of them are really worth something outside of fun?

[Nadaka]

Fun is a very valuable thing.

[Scoops Novel]

To the value of 200 games?

[Nadaka]

To the value of 200 games?

Yes. those 200 games cost less than a fast motorcycle or a nice boat or a marriage.

[Scoops Novel]

To the value of 200 games?

Yes. those 200 games cost less than a fast motorcycle or a nice boat or a marriage.

It's already clear I'd only very tenuously appreciate the cost of one of those things.

[Scoops Novel]

Evidently, i know I've regretted my purchases and forgotten cappuccino's i bought for the endurance factor. Nevertheless, i can't help but think it's an enormous waste of funds. It doesn't help that though there appears to be a slow change the vast majority of games, or at least the investment goes into pointless or negative projects that target a slim demographic whilst catering to and reinforcing it's worse parts. In some ways its worse when clearly talented and intelligent creators work on indie projects which while very fun and even insightful reach a smaller audience and have more limited utility then they might otherwise have.

[Frumple]

Couple hundred games, purchased wisely, could come out to less than a thousand bucks pretty easily (<$5/game.) or less than 2k without trouble (<$10/game. which is cake to pull off). Which, while potentially a waste of funds (though going into that is opening a can of worms, because one can classify most things as such), certainly isn't an enormous waste, especially spread out over several years. Almost certainly more bang for your buck over that period than a similar amount of coffee or movie tickets or whathaveyou.

Gaming can be pretty cost efficient by most any (reasonable) heuristic you choose to use, at least before you start considering hardware (and considering that's multipurpose these days, even that's not that much of an overall cost increase.). There's honestly not many hobbies that aren't in bed with asceticism that are quite as inexpensive (providing you're using your brain while shopping, anyway.), especially if you're going to get very heavily into it.

Not really sure what that second half or so's trying to say, though. Niche games are somehow bad because they target a niche?

[Scoops Novel]

-.-. Creators of indie games are often wasting their talents. I chose them as being one of the better examples within the industry. Also, that is the can of worms I'm going for.

[Nadaka]

-.-. Creators of indie games are often wasting their talents. I chose them as being one of the better examples within the industry. Also, that is the can of worms I'm going for.

The one where you come on an indie game forum and say that they would be so much better off writing hospital management software in their free time.

[Frumple]

-.-. Creators of indie games are often wasting their talents. I chose them as being one of the better examples within the industry. Also, that is the can of worms I'm going for.

Every single person on the planet is wasting their talents to some degree. By posting on this forum, we have both likely wasted our talents to some degree. By doing anything at all beyond maximizing our capabilities with whatever talents we can develop and then spending every waking hour either exercising them or making it so that we can, we are wasting our talents, to varying extents. That'd be the can of worms you're prodding, yeah. "Wasting your talents" is a bit of an empty statement, really. Some day I'll figure out what that's supposed to mean besides, "They're not doing what I want them to do."

But yeah. What would you have them do, instead? And how do you know that their talents aren't in doing exactly what they do?