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Yes, I want to be able to use it with the DFHack console

288 (45.6%)

No, I like the stand alone QT version

140 (22.2%)

Both

204 (32.3%)

Total Members Voted: 631

[Jeoshua]

So they must already be dabbling to have the skill set 

Seems like an oversight in the tool to me.  Still, good to know.  I'm off to repair the ruins of what is with this tool.  So glad it exists.

[Thundercraft]

So they must already be dabbling to have the skill set 
Seems like an oversight in the tool to me.

I agree. Why not allow players this option? I can think of several reasons why adding new skills without going through said process is highly desirable. Of course, if adding such ability is complex or technically difficult, then it's understandable why it's missing.

But since Dwarf Companion had this functionality, we at least know it is possible. (That is, unless something changed in recent versions to make it impossible.)

[Greiger]

I think the problem is along the lines of why it's difficult to create new creatures.  The game doesn't have a spot in memory to put a new skill.   DF can because it knows to extend the size of the array.  But outside utilities can't manipulate the size of the array in a meaningful way. (or at least not in a way that DF will recognize after the fact)

Of course as I said many times in the past, I don't actually know for sure.  I don't mess with memory.  All I did was take 2 semesters of programming.


As for DC I don't remember it being capable of it either.  But it's been what, a year since DC last worked?  2 years?  I might be remembering it wrong.

[Miko19]

Whoah shit, I stopped playing DF for 2 weeks due to playing other games, now I go on forums to check how's the new Runesmith version progress going, and I get boink'd in the head with this

[Jay]

As for DC I don't remember it being capable of it either.  But it's been what, a year since DC last worked?  2 years?  I might be remembering it wrong.

It could.
But so much has changed in that regard that its implementation would be useless to try to port.

Seriously, it's not like performing a SINGLE JOB in the skill is impossibly hard or anything.

[Taricus]

It doesn't even have to be the same skill as the one you want to put xp in

[Jeoshua]

Wait, what?

I'm still in the planning stages, since this will be a very challenging embark (1 dog, 2 cats, 2 picks, 2 axes... the standard setup).  Even if I cheat the skills in I need a good plan to make this fort work.

So you're saying I could tell everyone to mine and cut down trees, or whatever, then simply change the mining and tree cutting skills? That's brilliant.

[Taricus]

Yep, I've seen it too.

[Jeoshua]

I think everyone is due for a few rounds of gathering plants...

[Jay]

Yep, I've seen it too.

That was Companion, again.
Runesmith does not allow you to change the skills themselves, although I don't know the reasoning behind it.

[Taricus]

You could actually, you just need a skill to change first.

[Jay]

You could actually, you just need a skill to change first.

Go actually try it and get back to me on that.

[Taricus]

Point, I did notice it in a earlier version though...

EDIT: I stand corrected.

[sizeak]

Adding new skills is not supported because I didn't want to encroach on DT's territory.

[Jay]

Adding new skills is not supported because I didn't want to encroach on DT's territory.

Err, what?  DT does labors, not skills.  Runesmith already does that too anyway?
Adding new skills in this case would be editing the actual skill level, which is certainly something DT doesn't do.

Also, mood editing is still mostly broken.
I was able to change a secretive mood to a fey mood successfully, but I haven't tested others.
It does not seem to be able to grab the materials requested at all, and trying to change the skill crashes Runesmith.