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Quietust

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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2010, 08:34:08 am »

Even if you keep every single dwarf busy, you will get parties - after all, nobles and children never have anything important to do.
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2010, 08:42:18 am »

1.) Build Lever
2.) Building Profile, set to only allow a child use it
3.) Pull order on repeat
4.) ??????
5.) Profit
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2010, 10:11:45 am »

1.) Build Lever
2.) Building Profile, set to only allow a child use it
3.) Pull order on repeat
4.) ??????
5.) Profit

Tell me, have you actually tested that? In all previous versions (both 0.28.181.40d and 0.23.130.23a), children do not pull levers, even when assigned via workshop profile, and I have no reason to expect that this would have changed in 0.31.
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2010, 10:22:58 am »

Even if you keep every single dwarf busy, you will get parties - after all, nobles and children never have anything important to do.

Not if you stick to zone-based meeting areas you won't. You can put them in a room with statues and caged/chained animals, and the dwarves will get all the benefits of the surrounding architecture(and keep idle dwarves out of the way of ones doing actual work), but without parties sucking them in. In that, the OP is correct - it is(sorry) not a new development, but it is entirely accurate.
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2010, 10:54:12 am »

Even if you keep every single dwarf busy, you will get parties - after all, nobles and children never have anything important to do.

Not if you stick to zone-based meeting areas you won't.

I was responding to SquirrelWizard's comment that parties (aside from wedding receptions) could be avoided simply by keeping every dwarf busy at all times, which is untrue due to children and nobles. The tactic of using activity zones instead of meeting halls works best because they no longer have any place at all to hold their parties.
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2010, 04:14:48 pm »

The best way to deal with annoying children is to imprison them till they grow up.

Dig a little room with a lockable door and build one constructed floor in the room. Order it removed. Once a child is inside (children do remove constructions, and will often do so in favor of adults, especially when the fort is busy) just lock the door. If you want him to survive, you should have a full booze and food stockpile in the room. Since children won't stockpile anything, you can't just dump food in the room as the leftovers will quickly rot. Stock the kid-prison before placing a kid inside!
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Dude_Jebawe

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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2010, 04:17:12 pm »

I've been doing this for years. It ranks right up there with "the sky is blue" in OBVIOUS.
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2010, 04:24:04 pm »

A baby dwarf just means you'll have another spearcatcher in 12 years.
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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2010, 10:00:38 pm »

I let my dwarves party because I'm not a sadistic bastard
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2010, 10:04:01 pm »

I let my dwarves party because I'm not a sadistic bastard

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Are you sure you're playing the correct game, good sir?

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   -- The Covenant of the Forge by Dan Parkinson, a Dragon Lance Novel

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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2010, 10:07:59 pm »

I turn off pregnancies in the .int file since I don't like kids and I play with smaller populations and I need everyone to be at least somewhat productive. I also don't get any nobles because I don't allow my population to go above 80.

I also never designate a meeting area from a statue or anything.
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2010, 10:08:55 pm »

Im nice to my dwarves, they're my babies.

I give them all fine rooms (well when I'm bored) with plenty of furnishings, I give them zoo's and sculpture gardens and massive dining rooms, I always smooth and engrave living quarters first (if theres no priority) etc.

BUT don't get me wrong, I have enough mental instability to be prone to random acts of violence and, of course, killing my captured prisoners in as many interesting ways as possible.
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2010, 12:52:38 am »

Half the community knows this before 40d

check posts and lurk around a bit before posting
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2010, 12:53:37 am »

Half the community knows this before 40d

check posts and lurk around a bit before posting

The other half obviously doesn't then. So be helpful or shut up.
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Re: Avoiding parties!
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2010, 09:39:50 am »

The best way to deal with annoying children is to imprison them till they grow up.

Just like the bumble bees -- wall em in with some food and don't come out till your 12 and have a job! ~ George Carlin, paraphrased
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