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Asshat Warlord
« on: May 16, 2010, 11:40:09 pm »

So, I was doing my first quest, to kill the bear-fiend Nkaogan. I asked around before I left the warlord's village, and it turns out, this bear dude is the human's lawgiver. I think, "Ok, so I guess he's some sort of tyrannical ruler" and I go to kill him. I have a hell of a time finding him, but with the help of stonesense, I finally do. It's a pretty drawn out battle, because I keep getting charged, but I eventually kill him.

I fast travel back to the warlord, and spawn in the mead hall. First think I see:

"I am the warlord blah"
"Prepare to die"

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!??!?! (Oh well, at least I have a steel battleaxe)
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Re: Asshat Warlord
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 11:53:28 pm »

This is a known bug.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2010, 02:27:25 am »

Yeah, this seems to be everyone's problem. At this point you'd be crazy not to strategize around it.
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Re: Asshat Warlord
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2010, 09:33:03 am »

He used you in his quest for power, he had you kill his greatest hurdle to the throne, but he expected you to die in the attempt.

When you showed up at his door he had to act innocent and try to kill you in order to maintain his position.  If everyone knew he hired an adventurer to kill the law giver he would never become king.
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2010, 10:14:06 am »

He used you in his quest for power, he had you kill his greatest hurdle to the throne, but he expected you to die in the attempt.

When you showed up at his door he had to act innocent and try to kill you in order to maintain his position.  If everyone knew he hired an adventurer to kill the law giver he would never become king.

Unfortunately, he didn't see the pane of glass above the adventurer's head, and got his ass handed to him.

One of the first rules of genre-savvyness is that you don't screw with the PC.

Reminds me of something someone said about the emperor in Oblivion at the beginning, "he saw the camera floating behind me and he said "Oh, you must be the PC, I guess I have to die now" and he gave me his macguffins and died".
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WHY DID YOU HAVE ME KICK THEM WTF I DID NOT WANT TO BE SHOT AT.
I dunno, you guys have survived Thomas the tank engine, golems, zombies, nuclear explosions, laser whales, and being on the same team as ragnarock.  I don't think something as tame as a world ending rain of lava will even slow you guys down.

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2010, 11:58:17 am »

Reminds me of something someone said about the emperor in Oblivion at the beginning, "he saw the camera floating behind me and he said "Oh, you must be the PC, I guess I have to die now" and he gave me his macguffins and died".

I like that theory better than Captain Picard's ability to precisely identify a talking lizard in a dark barely torchlit cell as one he saw in a dream Armok knows how long ago.  I don't know about anyone else but all those argonians look alike to me, I couldn't identify a particular one if my life depended on it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2010, 06:20:53 pm »

Unfortunately, he didn't see the pane of glass above the adventurer's head, and got his ass handed to him.
If by pane of glass, you mean =Steel Battle Axe= then you would be correct. Doesn't hurt that I somehow got legendary wrestler/fighter from the bear fiend. (Which is surprising, considering he was my first fight, other than two wolves and a bear)
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2010, 06:23:07 pm »

Unfortunately, he didn't see the pane of glass above the adventurer's head, and got his ass handed to him.
If by pane of glass, you mean =Steel Battle Axe= then you would be correct. Doesn't hurt that I somehow got legendary wrestler/fighter from the bear fiend. (Which is surprising, considering he was my first fight, other than two wolves and a bear)

I've had dwarves get legendary wrestling in mere seconds by telling them to attack zombie horses.
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WHY DID YOU HAVE ME KICK THEM WTF I DID NOT WANT TO BE SHOT AT.
I dunno, you guys have survived Thomas the tank engine, golems, zombies, nuclear explosions, laser whales, and being on the same team as ragnarock.  I don't think something as tame as a world ending rain of lava will even slow you guys down.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2010, 01:40:38 am »

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2010, 02:06:36 am »

I don't know about anyone else but all those argonians look alike to me.
Racist!  :P

But I think this is the result of Toady adding split loyalty to DF. But because of this bug, instead of people being able to ascribe leadership values to multiple people, the people of an area will ascribe maximum loyalty to all leaders in an area. The leaders themselves will do this as well. Thus, when given a quest to off some Demon Lawgiver or other rival leader, the everyone in the area (including your quest giver) will become hostile as a result of you killing their beloved leader. In any other game, I'd ask Toady to focus more on testing things like this for bugs instead of giving humans gold blood to test metal cooling, but as this is DF, I quite like the unintended and funny bugs.
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Re: Asshat Warlord
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2010, 05:46:25 pm »

Once the bug is fixed, this should still happen every once in a while.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2010, 02:48:04 pm »

He used you in his quest for power, he had you kill his greatest hurdle to the throne, but he expected you to die in the attempt.

When you showed up at his door he had to act innocent and try to kill you in order to maintain his position.  If everyone knew he hired an adventurer to kill the law giver he would never become king.

Sounds like a direct copy of the story for a dwarf noble in Dragon Age Origins...
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2010, 04:35:28 pm »

He used you in his quest for power, he had you kill his greatest hurdle to the throne, but he expected you to die in the attempt.

When you showed up at his door he had to act innocent and try to kill you in order to maintain his position.  If everyone knew he hired an adventurer to kill the law giver he would never become king.

Sounds like a direct copy of the story for a dwarf noble in Dragon Age Origins...

I'm sure it's much older than that.
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I dunno, you guys have survived Thomas the tank engine, golems, zombies, nuclear explosions, laser whales, and being on the same team as ragnarock.  I don't think something as tame as a world ending rain of lava will even slow you guys down.

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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 10:03:36 pm »

The idea? Yes. Very much so, probably outdates written history. Was just pointing out a modern example.
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