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[Astral]

New DLC is supposedly coming out soon... can't come soon enough.

[Jacob/Lee]

The goofy looking retro alternate history style of this game and F3 made me become less inclined to buy it. Until I learned that Bethesda was part of it.

Alas, after playing so much F3 I just didn't really get into NV, all I did was mess around with the Settlers mod. It just looks the same to me.

[Astral]

It just looks the same to me.

It *looks* the same, because it uses the same engine. It definitely doesn't play or feel the same; hell, even the story and how it unfolds seems a hundred times better. Black Isle/Obsidian really put some work into having their old charm with it.

At least, that's my opinion. After playing NV I never looked back to 3.

[Rakonas]

The goofy looking retro alternate history style of this game and F3 made me become less inclined to buy it.

Less inclined? The hell am I reading?

[Grakelin]

Until I learned that Bethesda was part of it.

More inclined? The hell am I reading?

[Acanthus117]

Until I learned that Bethesda was part of it.

More inclined? The hell am I reading?

Same here. I must've came or summat when I learned that the old guys were the one making it.

Honestly, the idea of F3's plot (a struggle over something so fucking basic like water) seems like a good idea, but Beth's writers... not so much.

[Angel Of Death]

I really don't understand Fallout 3's plot.

Why are people fighting over water when it's fucking EVERYWHERE in the game? And there's enough radaway to get them by for another million years.

[Ninteen45]

I really don't understand Fallout 3's plot.

Why are people fighting over water when it's fucking EVERYWHERE in the game? And there's enough radaway to get them by for another million years.

Some sort of optimism crap.

The glass is half empty and it's radioactive.

Problem, dad?

[Bdthemag]

I personally like NV better then FO3, FO3 was pretty black and white choices while NV had more neutral choices.

[Acanthus117]

I really don't understand Fallout 3's plot.

Why are people fighting over water when it's fucking EVERYWHERE in the game? And there's enough radaway to get them by for another million years.

Well, not everyone can get to said Rad-Away, and besides, they're thinking of restarting civilization again.

To do that, you need a steady supply of food that won't fuck you six ways to motherfucking Sunday. Clean water is a very important goal if you want to even consider that.

I mean, I don't think any crops'll grow well if they have fucked up water and shit.

[Rakonas]

I really don't understand Fallout 3's plot.

Why are people fighting over water when it's fucking EVERYWHERE in the game? And there's enough radaway to get them by for another million years.

Well, not everyone can get to said Rad-Away, and besides, they're thinking of restarting civilization again.

To do that, you need a steady supply of food that won't fuck you six ways to motherfucking Sunday. Clean water is a very important goal if you want to even consider that.

I mean, I don't think any crops'll grow well if they have fucked up water and shit.

Realistically, the soil should retain radiation far longer than the water. Of course, with radiation that gives you immortality while deforming you horribly I guess that's not the point.

[Acanthus117]

Anyways, the idea of the Fallout 3 plot is good. It's just that Beth's writers fucked it up.

I would have loved to see Black Isle/Obsidian's take on it, though.

[Virtz]

FO3's plot is a half-assed combination of FO1 (water and supermutants) and FO2 (Enclave and GECK) plots with some minor tidbits thrown in. And by half-assed I mean it's so full of holes it's inane. It's there just to try and convince fans that this is still Fallout.

The closest you'll get to Black Isle's FO3 is New Vegas, as certain elements are borrowed from the Van Buren design documents.

[Ninteen45]

I mean, I don't think any crops'll grow well if they have fucked up water and shit.

Stop giving arguments! Fallout 3 was bad! Why can't people online agree with me!!!!!


Guys. New thread. Now.

[Ampersand]

The problem is that they are first person shooters that want to be RPGs. When it tries to be an RPG, the populations are sparse and the world seems empty and filled with cardboard cutouts, and when it tries to be a shooter, the mechanics fall flat, such as shooting through people at close range, or having to shoot people five thousand times in the face to kill them.

Caesar and his Praetorian Guards, once stood there, while I unloaded what seemed like hundreds of armor piercing rounds out of 'This Machine' directly into their heads. They are armed in football gear. Caesar isn't even wearing a helmet.

I guess what I mean is, the shooting behaves like Borderlands when it wants to be like Gears of War, and the RPG elements are like, well, Oblivion, when it wants to be like Fallout 2.

Damn, though, do I love the game.

But seriously, don't get the DLC. This first one, Dead Money, especially. It adds absolutely nothing of value to the story arch, to the setting. Hell, even to your armory. The whole thing can be summed up roughly as a Ten Dollar Big Lipped Alligator Moment. You go in, you do the thing, you leave, thinking, 'Well, that happened', and none of it matters. This is not Broken Steel, or The Pitt, or Mothership Zeta. Hell, this isn't even Operation Anchorage. It's a package of ten dollar nothing.