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Author Topic: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]  (Read 4022 times)

Roderick Jaynes

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These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« on: April 23, 2010, 11:03:03 pm »

Having destroyed my FPS with a windmill farm, magma pump stack, and a few waves of immigrants, I decided to remedy my situation with another three letter acronym. But, upon opening *the carnival*, the *clowns* were nowhere to be seen. I checked the unit screen, and there they were -- turns out they'd been hanging around the other entrance. So I decide to give it a little time. And then a little more time. And then... breach the magma sea and start draining it into *the carnival* (that should wake them up). But... nothing. There's no obstructions between the *clowns* and my dorfs, as far as I can tell. What's going on?

(I realize I could probably dispense with the *double-talk* because I spoiler-tagged the thread, but it makes me feel like I'm the Orz, so I'd rather keep it up. And don't forget to *enjoy the sauce*.)
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Re: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2010, 11:14:06 pm »

*Clowns* make me *frumple*. They invaded my *house* and killed all my *campers*.

No *clowns* is better.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2010, 11:36:37 pm »

Someone noted once that by walling up Hell shortly after breaching it and then opening it back up, all the demons stopped trying to kill everything and just kind of meandered around. He sent his military in to kill them one by one. Though it doesn't seem like you did this, might be the same thing.

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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2010, 11:57:59 pm »

good old pathing bug?
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Re: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2010, 12:45:58 am »

*Clowns* make me *frumple*. They invaded my *house* and killed all my *campers*.

No *clowns* is better.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2010, 01:33:35 pm »

Nice SC2 refrence.
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Re: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2010, 01:58:34 pm »

Hell, it's about time.
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Re: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2010, 02:20:16 pm »

I just had an amazing experience.  Well, I think it's amazing.  I embarked onto a site with a relatively shallow set of levels, althought not by intent.  The lowest is -52.  I decided to build a spiral ramp down around the exact center of the site.  Without much hassle I breached the first set of soil caverns at level -16, the water caverns at level -21, and the second set of soils caverns at -32.  After setting up my farming and my well, and carrying out my first trade with the Mountainhome, I started down for the magma.  At level -44 I encountered a warm wall while digging, and noticed that -43 also had a few warm spots.  I went back up to the level above that one and expanded slightly (5x5) from the ramp.  Nothing.  I went back down a level, to -44, and started digging a couple of pilot 1-wide tunnels between the warm spots.  I figured I'd start to get an outline of the magma sea that way.  The first tunnelled tile gave me magma, adamantine, and the whole circus bit!   :o

It turns out that this site somehow has the magma seas falling over edges into the circus levels.  Magma-falls!   :o

I quickly cancelled the other exploratory tunnel and ordered a door fitted into the existing breach.  Then I ordered a two-layer deep wall built behind the door.  Meanwhile the clowns were swarming around the back, intact wall of the ramp shaft, looking for the way into the fortress.  Some, if not all, can fly, and if they'd had a more intelligent pathfinding they'd have had me.  They would have had to duck down and fly over some shallow magma and up into the seas area on the side of the ramp shaft where my tunnel had breached the wall.  They didn't seem to be able to do that, at least not in the time it took my Dwarves to seal the hole.

At this moment I have 74 clowns listed and I can't see how I will be able to access any of the magma safely.  The one positive is that the four "ordinary" magma creatures are deceased.   ::)
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Re: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2010, 02:34:25 pm »

This calls for carving fortifications into the funhouse after raising an army of crossbowdwarves.
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Re: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2010, 02:40:45 pm »

I thought crossbowdwarves were useless in this version?
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2010, 02:41:58 pm »

This calls for carving fortifications into the funhouse after raising an army of crossbowdwarves.

The copper bolt strikes the clown in the upper left ankle!  It is lodged firmly in the wound! x2000

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Re: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2010, 02:45:59 pm »

Which is why he said "an army" instead of "just one."
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Re: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2010, 02:49:06 pm »

If you're worried about your bowmen being pathetic, modify bolts to deal damage differently, perhaps using axe/sword's slashing attack instead of a stabbing one, or the hammer's blunt attack. That should *partially* cure their uselessness.
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Re: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2010, 02:51:12 pm »

This calls for carving fortifications into the funhouse after raising an army of crossbowdwarves.

There are probably some <ohnoes> that can pass through fortifications.
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Re: These *clowns* are no *fun*. [Spoilers!]
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2010, 03:10:36 pm »

Which is why he said "an army" instead of "just one."

Up it to x20000, or multiply it by however many dwarves you think warrant "army of crossdwarves."

Maybe two clowns die.

In a year.

From bloodloss.

If the clowns happen to have blood/ichor.
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