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[Urist McEngineer]

Thank you. I was OCD smoothing all my rooms before i put beds and chests and cabinets in and by the time my engravers were done the next load of migrants came and the previous lot were unhappy for sleeping in the dirt.

[Prologue]

Put a chain in the middle of a 3x3 room. channel out the squares except the middle (preferably 3+z levels). Add hatches on all the holes. Chain a wild animal (preferably and elf). Open the hatch while the animal (elf) is standing on it.

Does the chain 'break' or will the elf get hung? Does this even work? 

[Yaotzin]

My possessed dwarf says he wants stone rocks and bones. Does this mean he still wants both stone and rock, or can it mean he only wants one of them? 'cause I saw him wander off and take something (can I tell what it was?)

Also, why do used bolts become forbidden? Is there some reason I shouldn't make them mine?

My first attempt at hunting failed I killed the badger but no one will pick up its corpse and butcher it

[Prologue]

Also, why do used bolts become forbidden? Is there some reason I shouldn't make them mine?

My first attempt at hunting failed I killed the badger but no one will pick up its corpse and butcher it

Bolts are forbidden when used so your civilian dwarfs won't rush out like a bunch of idiots in the middle of a siege, trying to re-collect them. Just do d-b-c to reclaim them.

Do you have a Butcher Workshop, and do you have a dwarf with Butchery labor on?

[Yaotzin]

Also, why do used bolts become forbidden? Is there some reason I shouldn't make them mine?

My first attempt at hunting failed I killed the badger but no one will pick up its corpse and butcher it

Bolts are forbidden when used so your civilian dwarfs won't rush out like a bunch of idiots in the middle of a siege, trying to re-collect them. Just do d-b-c to reclaim them.
Do you have a Butcher Workshop, and do you have a dwarf with Butchery labor on?

Ah I see, so same reason I have to manually reclaim stuff of guys I kill.

Yes I have one, I've been using it, though not at the time. I have like 20 dwarves with the labor. Maybe they're idiots and decided to haul junk instead. I'll kill some more boars and find out.

I have like 800 pieces of goblin clothing. Is this what the atom smasher was invented for?

eta: I realised I hadn't turned on corpses at my refuse pile, so I didn't have one. Did I need that?

Oh, yes it was! My badger survived being dumped, unforbidden, sent to my newly corpse accepting refuse pile, and then a dwarf automatically went to butcher him. Excellent.

[FuzzyZergling]

My possessed dwarf says he wants stone rocks and bones. Does this mean he still wants both stone and rock, or can it mean he only wants one of them? 'cause I saw him wander off and take something (can I tell what it was?)

Also, why do used bolts become forbidden? Is there some reason I shouldn't make them mine?

My first attempt at hunting failed I killed the badger but no one will pick up its corpse and butcher it

[t] over the workshop to see what has been collected, then compare that to the workshop's [q] list to see what the dwarf wants next. The list will always include every item the dwarf wants, as well as the order it gathers them in.

I assume that bolts become forbidden so that dwarves don't rush out to collect them while there's a battle going on.

Do you have a refuse stockpile? Butchers will only butcher non-rotting, non-pet animal corpses that are on a refuse stockpile. You will probably have to [o]rder aboveground refuse hauling.

[Yaotzin]

If I want to ensure my hunters are given armor and such, do I need to put them in a squad? How do I stop them training and make them hunt then?

[FuzzyZergling]

If I want to ensure my hunters are given armor and such, do I need to put them in a squad? How do I stop them training and make them hunt then?

I would definitely not recommend putting hunters in the military, since the hunting, mining, and woodcutting labors interfere with military uniforms.

[Prologue]

If I want to ensure my hunters are given armor and such, do I need to put them in a squad? How do I stop them training and make them hunt then?

Personally, I prefer to use my military for hunting, much more safer.

I still need my question answered:

Put a chain in the middle of a 3x3 room. channel out the squares except the middle (preferably 3+z levels). Add hatches on all the holes. Chain a wild animal (preferably and elf). Open the hatch while the animal (elf) is standing on it.

Does the chain 'break' or will the elf get hung? Does this even work? 

[FuzzyZergling]

Put a chain in the middle of a 3x3 room. channel out the squares except the middle (preferably 3+z levels). Add hatches on all the holes. Chain a wild animal (preferably and elf). Open the hatch while the animal (elf) is standing on it.

Does the chain 'break' or will the elf get hung? Does this even work? 

I think that the chain will stay, but the chained animal will fall anyway.
So the animal will still only be able to move in the 3x3 tiles around the chain, even though the chain is on a different z-level.

This is only speculation based on my experiences with chained animals moving down stairs.

[Zaphod728]

Anything i should know about reclaiming a fortress, so far i have had trouble making my dwarves dump stone that is cluttering the place up.
I have reclaimed everything that is forbidden, would it be better to destroy workshops and farms and rebuild them?
Would the DFhack help?

[Yaotzin]

If I want to ensure my hunters are given armor and such, do I need to put them in a squad? How do I stop them training and make them hunt then?

I would definitely not recommend putting hunters in the military, since the hunting, mining, and woodcutting labors interfere with military uniforms.

I'll test it more tommorrow, but it looks like you could create a "hunters" squad, and then cancel all their training in the schedule screen. Then they should pretty much act as civilians wearing their uniform.

[Telgin]

You can do that, but from my understanding they'll muck up their military uniform periodically as they go to hunt.  I've done this before, and don't recall explicitly what happened, but I think they'll waste time picking up equipment as they go on / off duty.  I think if you have them permanently off duty, they may just abandon their military uniform to grab a crossbow and quiver to hunt with.

If you do try it, don't be alarmed at individual combat drills though.  These are things that your dwarf would do while he otherwise had no job, so he's not really wasting time.

[Sphalerite]

Put a chain in the middle of a 3x3 room. channel out the squares except the middle (preferably 3+z levels). Add hatches on all the holes. Chain a wild animal (preferably and elf). Open the hatch while the animal (elf) is standing on it.

Does the chain 'break' or will the elf get hung? Does this even work? 

I think that the chain will stay, but the chained animal will fall anyway.
So the animal will still only be able to move in the 3x3 tiles around the chain, even though the chain is on a different z-level.

This is only speculation based on my experiences with chained animals moving down stairs.

Chains in DF are basically mind control devices - they prevent attached creatures from moving away from the chain under their own power, but don't do anything to physically restrain them against falling, or being pushed away by cave-in dust or flowing water.  Once a creature is pushed more than one Z-level away from the chain, it will be considered to be no longer attached to the chain.

It's kind of weird how it works.  Chains don't restrict creatures from moving in the Z direction at all.  If you build a chain directly adjacent to the staircase, a creature attached to the chain will be able to climb as far up and down the staircase as it likes, so long as it stays confined to the 3x3 tile column centered on the chain.  Despite this, if a creature falls more than one Z-level below the chain, it will become detached from the chain, even though it could have walked more than one Z-level below the chain under its own power.

[greycat]

If you do try it, don't be alarmed at individual combat drills though.  These are things that your dwarf would do while he otherwise had no job, so he's not really wasting time.

They won't do combat drills if they have no barracks assignment.