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[Eviltyphoon]

I just got some elven traders stop by... Here's what they brought me:

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Needless to say, first thing I did was add  [Thttp://RAINABLE] to a certain monster in the raws 

[LordSlowpoke]

You are now aware that those scorpions probably have most of their body parts damaged.
It's common amongst elves, they smack their animals with trees until the said animals get some kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

[Rose]

perhaps, but that is a breeding pair.

[Eviltyphoon]

You are now aware that those scorpions probably have most of their body parts damaged.
It's common amongst elves, they smack their animals with trees until the said animals get some kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

All threee of the animals I bought (2 giant scorpions, 1 giant leopard) are at perfect health 

[Neruz]

The reason Elf traded animals often have injuries is due to the animals being dragged into climates they can't handle; if a hot-climate animal gets dragged into a cold climate (or visa versa) they suffer brown injuries to body parts from exposure, if it's really bad they die and you get free corpses with your cages.

Giant Desert Scorpions don't seem to have many issues with exposure; i've had them survive happily on a glacier, so yeah.

[XSI]

It's a shame they will only get you cloth after a few years, but at least it's worth letting them live.

For now.

Don't giant scorpions have building destroyer tags? If so, you may want to consider not letting them out of the cages, Fun can happen when they just walk around.

[Quietust]

I just got some elven traders stop by... Here's what they brought me:

Needless to say, first thing I did was add  [Thttp://RAINABLE] to a certain monster in the raws 

In my previous fort, I had the exact same thing happen, though I responded not by adding [TRAINABLE] but by adding [CHILD].

[Neruz]

It's a shame they will only get you cloth after a few years, but at least it's worth letting them live.

The trick to stop them doing that is to give them really low profit; it's been concluded that if you give traders high profit, they bring more valuable items next year. The problem is, for the Elves cloth is the most valuable item by weight that they can bring. So if you give them lots of profit they load up on cloth and run out of space for anything else.

The same thing happens with Humies and Dorfs, but they have wagons that can carry loads more stuff, so the first wagon gets all the cltoh and then the other wagons get everything else. But the Elves just have donkeys, which can't carry much, so they run out of space.


If you steal everything from a caravan for a year or two, they'll start bringing good stuff again.

[Eviltyphoon]

It's a shame they will only get you cloth after a few years, but at least it's worth letting them live.

For now.

Don't giant scorpions have building destroyer tags? If so, you may want to consider not letting them out of the cages, Fun can happen when they just walk around.

[BUILDINGDESTOYER:1]

I let them out of the cages, and they haven't broken anything... yet

[Neruz]

It's a shame they will only get you cloth after a few years, but at least it's worth letting them live.

For now.

Don't giant scorpions have building destroyer tags? If so, you may want to consider not letting them out of the cages, Fun can happen when they just walk around.

[BUILDINGDESTOYER:1]

I let them out of the cages, and they haven't broken anything... yet

Sometimes Buildingdestroyers go on statue-destroying rampages. Other times they sit calmly and never harm a fly.

And sometimes they just suddenly go nuts, knock over a nearby statue, and then never destroy another building ever again.

[Quietust]

The trick to stop them doing that is to give them really low profit; it's been concluded that if you give traders high profit, they bring more valuable items next year. The problem is, for the Elves cloth is the most valuable item by weight that they can bring. So if you give them lots of profit they load up on cloth and run out of space for anything else.

Technically, the stuff they bring is probably influenced not only by profit but also by your increasing wealth. Also, the issue isn't with cloth being valuable but with all traders loading up bins before anything else, where the elves just run out of room before getting to the good stuff.

[Particleman]

Solution: Edit the raws to remove elves' ability to make cloth

[sunshaker]

The trick to stop them doing that is to give them really low profit; it's been concluded that if you give traders high profit, they bring more valuable items next year. The problem is, for the Elves cloth is the most valuable item by weight that they can bring. So if you give them lots of profit they load up on cloth and run out of space for anything else.

Technically, the stuff they bring is probably influenced not only by profit but also by your increasing wealth. Also, the issue isn't with cloth being valuable but with all traders loading up bins before anything else, where the elves just run out of room before getting to the good stuff.

And then there was NW_Kohaku who added 00 to the trade capacity of all pack animals...

http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=50073.0

[sunshaker]

Solution: Edit the raws to remove elves' ability to make cloth

That would be the Outdoor Farming token, which means they will also stop bringing food, seeds, booze, dye and the like.

[Skorpion]

Solution: Edit the raws to remove elves' ability to make cloth

Or give them wagons.

Personally, I just carefully watch their profit margins and kill them every so often.