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[Culise]

EDIT: Ah, never mind.  Sorry.

[Dorsidwarf]

Does anyone have any advice for balancing power requirements for a laser cruiser?
I want some serious firepower for missile-catching, but I'm afraid of straining the reactor, and can't find where the power drain of the damn things is.

[Mini]

Power drain of each weapon is the capacitor rating.

[Rince Wind]

You could also add the weapons, then add power plants until no error is shown in the bottom right.




Did the precursos get better? In my current game a 9.900t ship has 8 armor, that is a lot more than what I am used to. I like it.
Good thing I brought those 38cm spinal lasers. Though the 2nd one fell to point defence turrets.

[Dorsidwarf]

Is there any way to transfer crewmen from one ship to another? I have a ship that's run out of life-support, with no tugs or supply vessels. I sent out the oldest ship in the fleet to try and rescue it, but now I'm stuck.

[LoSboccacc]

You could also add the weapons, then add power plants until no error is shown in the bottom right.




Did the precursos get better? In my current game a 9.900t ship has 8 armor, that is a lot more than what I am used to. I like it.
Good thing I brought those 38cm spinal lasers. Though the 2nd one fell to point defence turrets.

how did you catch up with them? what tech level did you start with?

[EuchreJack]

There aren't any limits on how big ships can get, and I've seen folks SM billions tons ships.

Yes, there are. I don't remember the limits off the top of my head, but there are a bunch of different hard caps on shipbuilding beyond which the ships start to generate overflow errors, and they collectively result in an effective hard limit in the low millions of tons.

I don't doubt that someone clicked past a bunch of errors while designing something and managed to SM it into game, but it's not the sort of thing you could actually play with.

More than 500 battalions or 23 divisions on one planet will cause an overflow.
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=6739.0
That topic holds info on what breaks aurora when things get too big.

The above link shows when ships get too big.  Not worth the overflows, in my opinion.

[Rince Wind]

You could also add the weapons, then add power plants until no error is shown in the bottom right.




Did the precursos get better? In my current game a 9.900t ship has 8 armor, that is a lot more than what I am used to. I like it.
Good thing I brought those 38cm spinal lasers. Though the 2nd one fell to point defence turrets.

I used the standard start, but as a Meritocracy, that gives 30 research centers and I think 160k techpoints. I had those randomly assigned and luckily already had Ion drives. Didn't get decent scientists for a long time (I had three at the beginning, two of them sensor specialists), so I stayed in Sol for a while. When I met the precursors I had magneto plasma almonst ready, so I waited for a bit. Now my warships are 40% engines and are barely 200km/sec faster than the precursors. But it is enough. (6400km/sec, 5kt sensor ships, and 10kt cruisers and escorts).

how did you catch up with them? what tech level did you start with?

[MarcAFK]

You could also add the weapons, then add power plants until no error is shown in the bottom right.




Did the precursos get better? In my current game a 9.900t ship has 8 armor, that is a lot more than what I am used to. I like it.
Good thing I brought those 38cm spinal lasers. Though the 2nd one fell to point defence turrets.

A lot of people are commenting on better AI

[nate9090]

Haven't played in several years, but just loaded up Aurora yesterday and have been playing a very cautious slow game to get a handle on things again.

Year 2215 now, four systems surveyed and inhabited. No alien contacts and did not start with an alien NPC so things have been completely peaceful so far. (Also no turn slowdown!  ) I have large mineral stockpiles and a good amount of shipyards ready to go. I've only built the same small system defense ship since the beginning keeping a group of 8 in each system.

Now however I feel like I'm ready to explore and I've put together the first real exploration force.

I'm using long range offensive missiles, laser turret batteries, and gauss point defense. The escort frigates also have small AMM batteries. I have tankers to accompany the fleet, as well as geo and grav survey ships and one troop transport that carries a brigade and four boarding pods with a marine company and 25,000km/s speed. I'm hoping I didn't screw up the ship designs too bad:

Cruiser

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 BFS New York CA class Cruiser    40,000 tons     1198 Crew     21030.7 BP      TCS 800  TH 960  EM 4500
7500 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 17-104     Shields 150-300     Sensors 120/90/0/0     Damage Control Rating 44     PPV 238.28
Maint Life 1.11 Years     MSP 5600    AFR 914%    IFR 12.7%    1YR 4588    5YR 68814    Max Repair 1188 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 3   
Flag Bridge    Magazine 144   

Reich Turbines J40500(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 40500 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
Dynamics 750 EP Internal Fusion Drive (    Power 750    Fuel Use 62%    Signature 120    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 2,320,000 Litres    Range 16.8 billion km   (25 days at full power)
Diamond Energetics Xi R300/360 Shields (30)   Total Fuel Cost  450 Litres per hour  (10,800 per day)

Twin Diamond Energetics 30cm C10 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (4x2)    Range 480,000km     TS: 12500 km/s     Power 48-20     RM 6    ROF 15        24 24 24 24 24 24 20 18 16 14
Quad Diamond Energetics 30cm C10 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (2x4)    Range 480,000km     TS: 12500 km/s     Power 96-40     RM 6    ROF 15        24 24 24 24 24 24 20 18 16 14
Quad Gatling Systems Gauss Cannon R5-50 Turret (2x20)    Range 50,000km     TS: 32000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Twin Gatling Systems Gauss Cannon R5-50 Turret (4x10)    Range 50,000km     TS: 32000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Gatling Systems Fire Control S02 60-32000 H50 (6)    Max Range: 120,000 km   TS: 32000 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17
Diamond Energetics Fire Control S03 240-12000 H50 (1)    Max Range: 480,000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     98 96 94 92 90 88 85 83 81 79
Diamond Energetics Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 (4)     Total Power Output 160    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Catapult Engineering S6 Box Launcher (24)    Missile Size 6    Hangar Reload 45 minutes    MF Reload 7.5 hours
Diamond Energetics Missile Fire Control FC311-R16 (50%) (1)     Range 311.0m km    Resolution 16
ASM6 46.7k TS 9WH 'Blood Hound' 300mkm (24)  Speed: 46,700 km/s   End: 107m    Range: 300m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 218/130/65

Diamond Energetics Active Search Sensor MR8-R1 (40%) (1)     GPS 48     Range 8.6m km    MCR 941k km    Resolution 1
Diamond Energetics Active Search Sensor MR311-R16 (50%) (1)     GPS 6912     Range 311.0m km    Resolution 16
Diamond Energetics Thermal Sensor TH5-120 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 120     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  120m km
Diamond Energetics EM Detection Sensor EM5-90 (1)     Sensitivity 90     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  90m km

ECCM-2 (1)         ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Missile Destroyer

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 BFS Tigris DDG class Missile Destroyer    20,000 tons     387 Crew     8574.4 BP      TCS 400  TH 480  EM 3750
7500 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 11-65     Shields 125-300     Sensors 24/90/0/0     Damage Control Rating 37     PPV 122.92
Maint Life 1.26 Years     MSP 1876    AFR 457%    IFR 6.3%    1YR 1227    5YR 18412    Max Repair 843.75 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 720   

Reich Turbines J20250(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 20250 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
Dynamics 750 EP Internal Fusion Drive (4)    Power 750    Fuel Use 62%    Signature 120    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 1,190,000 Litres    Range 17.3 billion km   (26 days at full power)
Diamond Energetics Xi R300/360 Shields (25)   Total Fuel Cost  375 Litres per hour  (9,000 per day)

Twin Gatling Systems Gauss Cannon R5-50 Turret (2x10)    Range 50,000km     TS: 32000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Gatling Systems Fire Control S02 60-32000 H50 (2)    Max Range: 120,000 km   TS: 32000 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17

Catapult Engineering S6 Box Launcher (120)    Missile Size 6    Hangar Reload 45 minutes    MF Reload 7.5 hours
Diamond Energetics Missile Fire Control FC311-R16 (50%) (5)     Range 311.0m km    Resolution 16
ASM6 46.7k TS 9WH 'Blood Hound' 300mkm (120)  Speed: 46,700 km/s   End: 107m    Range: 300m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 218/130/65

Diamond Energetics Active Search Sensor MR8-R1 (40%) (1)     GPS 48     Range 8.6m km    MCR 941k km    Resolution 1
Diamond Energetics Active Search Sensor MR311-R16 (50%) (1)     GPS 6912     Range 311.0m km    Resolution 16
Diamond Energetics Thermal Sensor TH1-24 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 24     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  24m km
Diamond Energetics EM Detection Sensor EM5-90 (1)     Sensitivity 90     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  90m km

ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Escort Destroyer

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 BFS Guderian DDE class Destroyer Escort    20,000 tons     609 Crew     11622.4 BP      TCS 400  TH 480  EM 3750
7500 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 11-65     Shields 125-300     Sensors 24/90/0/0     Damage Control Rating 37     PPV 113.7
Maint Life 1.21 Years     MSP 2542    AFR 457%    IFR 6.3%    1YR 1778    5YR 26666    Max Repair 843.75 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 2   

Reich Turbines J20250(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 20250 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
Dynamics 750 EP Internal Fusion Drive (4)    Power 750    Fuel Use 62%    Signature 120    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 1,190,000 Litres    Range 17.3 billion km   (26 days at full power)
Diamond Energetics Xi R300/360 Shields (25)   Total Fuel Cost  375 Litres per hour  (9,000 per day)

Twin Diamond Energetics 30cm C10 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (2x2)    Range 480,000km     TS: 12500 km/s     Power 48-20     RM 6    ROF 15        24 24 24 24 24 24 20 18 16 14
Twin Gatling Systems Gauss Cannon R5-50 Turret (6x10)    Range 50,000km     TS: 32000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Quad Gatling Systems Gauss Cannon R5-50 Turret (2x20)    Range 50,000km     TS: 32000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Gatling Systems Fire Control S02 60-32000 H50 (    Max Range: 120,000 km   TS: 32000 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17
Diamond Energetics Fire Control S03 240-12000 H50 (1)    Max Range: 480,000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     98 96 94 92 90 88 85 83 81 79
Diamond Energetics Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Diamond Energetics Active Search Sensor MR8-R1 (40%) (1)     GPS 48     Range 8.6m km    MCR 941k km    Resolution 1
Diamond Energetics Thermal Sensor TH1-24 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 24     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  24m km
Diamond Energetics EM Detection Sensor EM5-90 (1)     Sensitivity 90     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  90m km

ECCM-2 (1)         ECM 20

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Escort Frigate

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 BFS Chikimi FFE class Frigate Escort    10,000 tons     273 Crew     4951.12 BP      TCS 200  TH 240  EM 1500
7500 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 8-41     Shields 50-300     Sensors 24/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 3     PPV 33.84
Maint Life 1.13 Years     MSP 928    AFR 266%    IFR 3.7%    1YR 741    5YR 11122    Max Repair 843.75 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 2   
Magazine 364   

Reich Turbines J20250(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 20250 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
Dynamics 750 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 750    Fuel Use 62%    Signature 120    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 610,000 Litres    Range 17.7 billion km   (27 days at full power)
Diamond Energetics Xi R300/360 Shields (10)   Total Fuel Cost  150 Litres per hour  (3,600 per day)

Twin Gatling Systems Gauss Cannon R5-50 Turret (4x10)    Range 50,000km     TS: 32000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Gatling Systems Fire Control S02 60-32000 H50 (4)    Max Range: 120,000 km   TS: 32000 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17

Catapult Engineering S1Missile Launcher - ROF5 (4)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 5
Catapult Engineering Missile Fire Control FC12-R1 (1)     Range 13.0m km    Resolution 1
AMM 49k 'Sidewinder' 1.6mkm (364)  Speed: 49,000 km/s   End: 0.5m    Range: 1.6m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 441/264/132

Diamond Energetics Active Search Sensor MR8-R1 (40%) (2)     GPS 48     Range 8.6m km    MCR 941k km    Resolution 1
Diamond Energetics Thermal Sensor TH1-24 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 24     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  24m km

ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

I know you don't have to put jump drives on each ship but I always felt like you either should have a JD on each ship or have a gate, so that is what I do for roleplay purposes. Last time I played I used nothing but missiles so I'm not exactly sure I did the beam weapons right. I might of put too many fire controls, each PD turret has its own FC. I wasn't sure if I would need more than one FC for the laser batteries on the cruisers so I only put one. Oh...and I put the wrong jump drive on the escort frigate, it has a 20k JD instead of the 10k one... oops! could of gained 750 tons of more useful stuff there...

So can I get some advice on improving these further for when I redesign them for the next generation? I was thinking of switching out the box launchers for 75% reduced ones so I can bring a missile collier and be able to reload without returning to Earth (or waiting for a tug to bring a maintenance base haha).


Edit: Fixed up the Escort Frigate with the correct JD. Was able to fit another magazine for missiles and an ECCM.

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 BFS Chikimi FFE - Copy class Frigate Escort    10,000 tons     258 Crew     4974.53 BP      TCS 200  TH 240  EM 1500
7500 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 8-41     Shields 50-300     Sensors 24/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 3     PPV 33.84
Maint Life 1.13 Years     MSP 933    AFR 266%    IFR 3.7%    1YR 736    5YR 11034    Max Repair 843.75 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 4   
Magazine 544   

Reich Turbines J10500(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 10500 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
Dynamics 750 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 750    Fuel Use 62%    Signature 120    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 610,000 Litres    Range 17.7 billion km   (27 days at full power)
Diamond Energetics Xi R300/360 Shields (10)   Total Fuel Cost  150 Litres per hour  (3,600 per day)

Twin Gatling Systems Gauss Cannon R5-50 Turret (4x10)    Range 50,000km     TS: 32000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Gatling Systems Fire Control S02 60-32000 H50 (4)    Max Range: 120,000 km   TS: 32000 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17

Catapult Engineering S1Missile Launcher - ROF5 (4)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 5
Catapult Engineering Missile Fire Control FC12-R1 (1)     Range 13.0m km    Resolution 1
AMM 49k 'Sidewinder' 1.6mkm (544)  Speed: 49,000 km/s   End: 0.5m    Range: 1.6m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 441/264/132

Diamond Energetics Active Search Sensor MR8-R1 (40%) (2)     GPS 48     Range 8.6m km    MCR 941k km    Resolution 1
Diamond Energetics Thermal Sensor TH1-24 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 24     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  24m km

ECCM-3 (1)         ECM 30

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

[Aseaheru]

 That magazine capacity on the cruiser is from the box launchers, right?

[nate9090]

That magazine capacity on the cruiser is from the box launchers, right?

Right, the launchers come with enough space to have one missile loaded, no magazines involved. They have to be reloaded in a maintenance facility or hanger though.

The idea with the missile destroyers is to have 24 missiles assigned to each FC, so they can shoot 24 missiles at 5 different targets at once per missile destroyer. They can just dump all their missiles at once if the target is large or fire smaller volleys of less missiles if the target is small.

[Micro102]

They only have fuel for ~25 days. This makes me cringe. Not because I'm saying it's a bad idea, but because I have such little experience with fighting and cannot fathom having such little fuel on them. Do you bring a tanker? How many systems can those ships travel in 25 days? To me it doesn't seem like they could make it 2 systems before needing to refuel.

[Micro102]

I've run into a problem. I started playing 7.1 and it was going fine for a about a week now, but after trying to open Aurora today, it immediately crashes. Opening it a second time worked, but now I am experiencing windows freezing and closing and popping up over others. Any idea what I should do to fix this?

[MarcAFK]

Are you getting error messages? Post details.
Which window specifically causes the error?
Or what other process triggers it?