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Oh dear lordy-lord this subforum is dead.  We have two BMs, KotM, two BYORs (one of which hasn't been posted in for 6 days), and nothing else.

We need something cool to play. Something not BYOR, but something... dare I say, themed?

Plus, it hurts that I'm a major source of games, and I'm very busy. I'd usually have more games out, but without that, we're stuck on BYOR repeat, which I suppose I'll hold off for a while when I'm done.

I'll run something fun, but that involves me not being a total slacker.

[Heliman]

You could always do that Four Rooms mafia thing I made, I didn't get any complaints when I drafted the idea. The amount of feedback I've gotten regarding it is a little dismal though.

I've been thinking about a "4 Rooms with a TV" mafia game, played almost entirely in Quicktopic. The general concept is that all the players are thrown into various rooms every once in awhile and can't talk to players that are not in the room they are in. The entire crux of playing town successfully will be trying to deal with a constant denial of information, and the crux to playing scum is to play upon that advantage like violinists on a violin. Roles are given out by the traditional F11 distributions, with 8 extra town and one goon tacked on to balance the advantage scum has. I also ran into the problem of players being stranded as only one of a few players in a room, so I made the days into multiple segments, gave each room a special ability when there are few players in it, and had the rooms be periodically destroyed to keep things somewhat crowded.


General Rules

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• Roles are distributed randomly and are weighted according to the standard F11 setup, with 8 townies and one goon added for balance.
• There are 4 rooms and 18 players (3 are scum). Players are randomly distributed into rooms at the beginning.
• Players cannot see the posts of players that are not in their rooms unless otherwise stated.
• Players are randomly redistributed into different rooms every 48 hours called "segments." There are 3 segments every day and at the end of the day the player with the most votes is lynched.
• Every two days, one room is destroyed in order of greatest number (4, then 3, then 2), Room 1 cannot be destroyed.
• Unless otherwise stated, Players are informed of what room other players are sent.
• Scum share their own room where they can talk at will, regardless of other room restrictions.
• Scum is informed where the other players will be sent at the beginning of all the segments for that day the night before, and at the beginning of D1.
• Scum can choose which room they will be sent before entering before each segment, with the exception of D1, Section 1, which is random.
• A failure to PM the mod will result in the Scum being sent to a random room.
• Players cannot see the posts that occurred in a room before they were there (Note, this does not mean that players can't revisit the posts of the rooms they were in previously.)
• Role powers and NKs at night are not restricted by room assignments.
  
  
• Unless otherwise stated, a lynch count will be posted in every room approximately every 12 hours.

Every room has it's own specialty, with a special power depending on the amount of people in a room.

Room 1, The TV room

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This Room is the room in the TV! Everyone can see you, even you can see you. Seeing you. Seeing you. Seeing you.
Ok, now you have a headache. Stupid TV room.

This room is contained within our own mafia forum, Any player may view it but only players assigned to this room my post in it. (IE looking at the television in their room)
SPECIAL: No special, how special!

Room 2, The Record room

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The walls are covered in scribbles of the others. So creepy... yet... you must... scratch with them...

In this room, Players can see all the posts that were made in previous segments of this room.
SPECIAL: (Players<2) Oh hey, there's a remote on the TV! Who knew that this thing had different channels? (You can view others discussing in all the other rooms for this segment)

Room 3, The Echo Room

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Every time someone speaks the room echoes the words over and over again, each time you speak you have to raise your voice higher and higher every time just to be heard and GODDAMMIT EVERYONE STOP TALKING, I CAN'T HEAR MYSELF THINK!

(In this room, there is a set amount of posts that can be made before the room is locked, equal to the amount of players times 15.)
SPECIAL: (Players=1) Wow it's so Quiet now now now, I can even hear the echos from the last group group group. (You can view all the past posts in this room)

Room 4, The Dark Room

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This room is unbearably dark, You can't even see the board that tallies the votes! The is only the light of the television, and the shine in the greedy eyes of your new roommates

In this room, You cannot see where the other players are sent that are not in the room or who they vote.
SPECIAL: (Players<2, So very dark... (The television goes off, with absolutely no light, the players eventually go insane and kill each other/commit suicide.)

EDIT: In retrospect, It's a pretty large game though, Could I even find 18 players before this thing becomes dead?

[lordnincompoop]

Ass soon as we've passed July 10th, I'm going to run a legendary game, I promise.

[Solifuge]

Heli, that does sound pretty neat in concept. A few critiques:

I could see it getting either terribly confusing, or the copious methods of getting snippets of past information putting a lot of focus on the very thing the game-style is meant to conceal. Also, as Scum, it'd be really hard to pull much of a gambit relying on denial of past or present information, because you lack the normal upper-hand in information that most Mafias have; there are so many opportunities for Town to spy on other rooms, secretly watching the whole thing (be it in the future or concurrently in another room) that it would be terribly tough to do much with the denial of info yourself.

[Heliman]

Hmm, you make a good point. I've got two potential solutions:

I COULD I switch echo room's position with the record room. That way the major observation chamber would be only used earlier in the game, when the special has a less a chance of popping and there is less to take from the record's normal power? That could help.

OR

I could add a rule that I took out. in the early version I had the intention of informing the scum of all the town arrangements for the segments of each day, but I removed it because I thought it was OP, maybe it would help if I added it back? It could lead to situations where a scum could fill the record room or echo room to block it from popping special.

[Tyberix]

Wouldn't all scum always staying in record room break the game ? They would probably always get the vote majority and no-one would know what's happening in there. And Town without control over room relocation couldn't do anything? Or i missed something ?

Unless the votes carry over segments but that would be confusing as hell if you wouldn't know how many there already are.

[Heliman]

But the other players, with the exception of those in room 4, can see who is in all the other rooms. Trying to break the game like that would cause the following response:
 "How in the hell is it possible for the same guy to be in the same room five times in a row? Vote:Tiberix"


EDIT: analyzing where the scum sends themselves could be a whole part of the game. Players frequently together could be scummy, players frequently in rooms with a pop+1 players could look scummy, Scum breaking the pop in room 4 could be a gambit to look less scummy, the list goes on.

EDIT^2: Actually, I guess I'll add the second option then. The record room's nature means it was meant to be used late game anyway.

[Tyberix]

Ah, nevermind i thought the votes apply only to the current rooms.

There are 3 segments every day, at the end of which the player with the most votes is lynched.

I thought you meant that each segment ends with lynch. It makes more sense this way

[Heliman]

Ah, nevermind i thought the votes apply only to the current rooms.

There are 3 segments every day, at the end of which the player with the most votes is lynched.

I thought you meant that each segment ends with lynch. It makes more sense this way

Oh man if there was a lynch in every room in every segment we would be done in only one day.

[Tyberix]

Ah, nevermind i thought the votes apply only to the current rooms.

There are 3 segments every day, at the end of which the player with the most votes is lynched.

I thought you meant that each segment ends with lynch. It makes more sense this way

Oh man if there was a lynch in every room in every segment we would be done in only one day.

Nah, 4-5 people in one room would circle around each other for some time before lynching so it won't be that fast On the same topic : would the players be evenly distributed among rooms or completely random ? Because Mafia never choosing the dark room could be legit strategy (that would be very annoying as town) if there would be a big chance of  getting free kills like that.

[Heliman]

Yes, choices are totally random, and mafia avoiding the Dark Room would be a legit strategy. Mind though, the dark room is only around the first two days when there are a large amount of players, the chances of its special popping is somewhat low. Randomly distributed players is the entire reason why I added the specials, so that players who were all alone in a room would have something special to do in their spare time.

[Tyberix]

Assuming roles are same as usual, could cop inspect someone from the other room or mafia kill someone who's not in the room with one of them ? And i guess everyone stays in the last room they were at night ? Well,anyway it looks fun, but i guess it will be hell to manage all these quicktopics.  :|

Well if i get the rules right there's around 18,(18)% chance that someone dies in the dark room on the first day if scum would avoid it. I'm not sure if it's worth risking identification so i guess it's balanced enough Nah, ignore this i messed something up.

[Heliman]

inspections, protections, roleblocks and NKs can be on anyone, regardless of room.

[Toaster]

Oh dear lordy-lord this subforum is dead.  We have two BMs, KotM, two BYORs (one of which hasn't been posted in for 6 days), and nothing else.

We need something cool to play. Something not BYOR, but something... dare I say, themed?

I couldn't fill Bad Dudes, despite it having ninjas.  It may have been because it needed 13 people, though.

[JoshuaFH]

How about a King Maker?