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Author Topic: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.  (Read 40381 times)

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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #330 on: January 27, 2012, 02:51:05 pm »
Hey, just because a company is willing to sell us the noose doesn't mean we should forgo hanging them with it. ;)
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #331 on: January 27, 2012, 03:04:31 pm »
Quote from: Tilla on January 27, 2012, 02:49:22 pm
I don't hate Anonymous. Not in the least. But it is INCREDIBLY ironic that they're protesting bigmedia while wearing something purchased directly from one of the biggest companies.

And no, you cannot find a plain Guy Fawkes mask anymore basically anywhere outside of maybe the UK itself. They're ALL licensed V for Vendetta masks.
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Ha ha, ok let's get back on topic, we don't want orange soda in this thread.
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« Reply #332 on: January 27, 2012, 03:06:18 pm »
I don't get it, personally.  It's a powerful and widely recognized image that's fitting for a protester.  It also happens to be owned by a major corporation... just like everything else.  That irony is just an unavoidable part of the system, not of any choice made by anonymous or anybody else.  It would be exactly the same no matter what they chose to cover their faces with.  Some corporation would be profiting.  The measures a person would have to go to in order to protest the system from completely outside of the system would be impossibly extreme.

This kind of thing is pointed out so much -- "They're protesting corporations while using their products!" -- that it's become a sort of pet peeve of mine.
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #333 on: January 27, 2012, 03:10:47 pm »
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Mandatory prohibitions on breaking DRM, even if doing so for a lawful purpose (e.g., to make a work available to disabled people; for archival preservation; because you own the copyrighted work that is locked up with DRM)

...wait, what? 0_o
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #334 on: January 27, 2012, 03:14:53 pm »
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Mandatory prohibitions on breaking DRM, even if doing so for a lawful purpose (e.g., to make a work available to disabled people; for archival preservation; because you own the copyrighted work that is locked up with DRM)

...wait, what? 0_o

What the...
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« Reply #335 on: January 27, 2012, 03:21:23 pm »
Quote from: PTTG?? on January 27, 2012, 10:53:35 am
We need Anonymous to get its act together and start publicizing darknet. We can outrun the aging government.

What is darknet?
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« Reply #336 on: January 27, 2012, 04:21:47 pm »
Is this even enforceable? I know it would mean getting rid of facebook/youtube/twitter, but I'm more concerned about how ISPs will have to examine everything that passes through their systems. I can't see it being possible to have a connection at even dial-up speeds.
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #337 on: January 27, 2012, 04:24:49 pm »
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Europe has begun arresting ACTA protesters
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« Reply #338 on: January 27, 2012, 04:42:43 pm »
Quote from: Loud Whispers on January 27, 2012, 04:24:49 pm
Europe has begun arresting ACTA protesters
Really? What freaking jerks.

Also, the image is 404'd.
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #339 on: January 27, 2012, 04:43:00 pm »
We are boned. So boned. Theres no hope. We can't beat them...
DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL I HOPE EVERY ONE OF THOSE SONS OF BITCHES GETS AN H.B.I FROM THE DARK ONE HIMSELF!
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #340 on: January 27, 2012, 04:46:19 pm »
Quote from: Loud Whispers on January 27, 2012, 04:24:49 pm
Europe has begun arresting ACTA protesters

All of Europe?
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« Reply #341 on: January 27, 2012, 04:49:13 pm »
Why are they cracking down? They are afraid. Why are they afraid? Because they know that in a fight, they will lose.

Governments are a social structure. When a government is no longer accepted by the people, it can still fight, it can lash out like the dying animal it is, but it cannot win. It cannot force its people to accept it. And without people who accept it, soon, it becomes nothing at all.
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« Reply #342 on: January 27, 2012, 04:52:04 pm »
That is a bold argument, sort of like saying that if a man takes a swing in a fight, he does so because he knows he is going to loose that fight.
Rather, it is a means for winning...

Propaganda has won in the past, and if we let it it could win again.
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« Reply #343 on: January 27, 2012, 05:02:18 pm »
I wonder if the (World) Government really wants World Peace at all? The internet is a gateway for it, and they want to seize it. Why? Because progress =/= profit, I guess.

When are we as a world going to realize that money is just freaking paper, or a few ones and many zeroes (amount of 0's is relative)?
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #344 on: January 27, 2012, 05:03:29 pm »
Quote from: greatorder on January 27, 2012, 04:36:36 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on January 27, 2012, 04:24:49 pm
Europe has begun arresting ACTA protesters
welp, fuck this government, and fuck those arsewipes that think censoring the internet is good.

I bet they'll all get voted out.

also, protesters get arrested?
and you complain about other dictators doing the same, europe?
hypocrite much?
Europe didn't complain, they were pressured by its citizens to defend people who's human rights were threatened, and proceeded to wage war. Guess what, now it's Europe vs it's citizens. Don't blame us. Also, reports of American websites being taken down, though I cannot confirm this whatsoever, and I believe it to be false.

Quote from: Tarran on January 27, 2012, 04:42:43 pm
Also, the image is 404'd.

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