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[CobaltKobold]

Just shut up, ok? You're not helpful at all.

A strong reaction. I compiled the to-date voting statistics and that's not helpful at all? Sounds scummy.

It's not suspiscious to not have claimed to be pro-town. I mean, what, do you expect the scum to refuse? Has anybody even claimed truth-checker?

No, refusing would be stupid and obvscum, so they wouldn't unless they WERE stupid. I'd expect them to drag their feet, like you're doing. And nobody's claimed, because that would be stupid, just like claiming cop- as truth-checker is, essentially, a cop when everybody claims protown.

So, not claiming IS suspicious, because it effectively means you are not allowing an investigation on you, and only mafia want to hide.

Anyways, I'm pro-town, just in case. Oh, and I can confirm that the word "zombie" was mentioned in my role PM. I'm not one, but there you go.

thank you for additional information.

..Now, to check if Mr. Person had been active between my claim and the analysis, to determine whether he's only claiming because it's been pointed out that he hadn't.

...Answer: Yes, he was active in here, so it seems scummy. Also, some apparent buddying.

Anyways, onto the mafia-related part of this post. Zai, I like your post. You explained yourself, and you're voting somebody else for good reasons. Although I question why you stopped voting TM (he didn't say anything),
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To the people who are questioning Zai, he hasn't done anything scummy, at least as far as I can tell. Please, feel free to point it out, I'd love to hear it.

[CobaltKobold]

Just shut up, ok? You're not helpful at all.

A strong reaction. I compiled the to-date voting statistics and that's not helpful at all? Sounds scummy.

And I didn't see more than one reason initially to point fingers at you, but you're blowing up to pure information.

Mafia don't want people to ha'e information, just like you, Mr. Person.

[Mr.Person]

I wasn't talking about the fact part, I was talking about your thinking that not claiming your side was scummy. Those kinds of truth-checking roles are rare simply because they create confirmed townies. Now, I'm no expert, but I firmly believe there are no such roles in this game. Webadict isn't the kind of guy who would make roles that allow for CT, at least not that easily, anyways.

This isn't "pure information", this is witch-hunting. You're thinking that a bunch of people (including me) are scum simply because we haven't said "I'm town". Think about this for a second, wouldn't the scum, you know, lie about this and say nothing else? A scum would just go "I'm town, btw" and try going unnoticed. Now, you can claim WIFOM, but really, just think about your argument. It's really, really stupid.

Oh, and I've said it before and I'll say it again: You CANNOT say a person is scum based on their opinions of another person UNLESS that person has flipped scum.

[Cheeetar]

Mr. Person, what possible detract is there to saying 'I am pro-town'? None. There is a very possible no positive side, but with no cost and no detract why not say it?

[CobaltKobold]

I don't think it creates a CT any more than "sane cop". Perhaps a bit less possibility of Godfather (or Miller), but all it does is give one investigator the knowledge, unless you set it up in the strange, public-announce Disciple of Truth style. Which does sort of go kablamf.

Scum can fakeclaim truthchecker just like they can fakeclaim cop (which they ha'e the information for anyway), so I don't see how you get a CT out of it.

Anyway, the other suspicions (listed after that) were not filtered on that (unclaiming) list, but some lined up anyway.

Your agitation is going up and up, Mr. Person. It does not look good to me.

So, what do people think of the {aliens, robots, ninjas, pirates, zombies} that ha'e been apparently brought up? Meaningful?

I think mine(pirates) was in reference to part of my role.

[Cheeetar]

I think mine was also in reference to my role, and I think that it might be meaningful.

[SHAD0Wdump]

Ok Vector...

Leafsnail,reason... DESU!

Silly no?

Unvote

[Pandarsenic]

So, what do people think of the {aliens, robots, ninjas, pirates, zombies} that ha'e been apparently brought up? Meaningful?

Oh lord, I have some rereading to do.

[Leafsnail]

Ok Vector...

Leafsnail,reason... DESU!

Silly no?

Unvote

What is SHADOWdump doing, desu?  Is this a satire of Vector, desu?  Or is SHADOW just poking fun at Leafsnail's role, desu?  Please explain, desu.

Rozen Maiden are clockwork, so that might be part of the reason why robots were mentioned in Leafsnail's role pm, desu.  Leafsnail's guess is that there's a role that causes everyone's pms to be messed up, and causes them to receive the name of a made up faction, desu.  Either that or there really are pirates, ninjas, aliens, zombies, robots etc, desu.

[Vector]

I have vague suspicions about the factions mentioned, and I'll ask--has everyone who has a faction mentioned but is not part of one told us about it?  If not, I'd really like to hear the rest of the information, because it might indicate some bastard modding.

I'm also vaguely wondering if we have no scum right now, and will gain scum later when people decide to join the pirates/zombies/whatever group they want to enlist in.

Ok Vector...

Leafsnail,reason... DESU!

Silly no?

Unvote

Yes, yes.  Very silly.  Now start defending yourself, clown.

[ToonyMan]

I am not scum.

Now let's see here.  SHAD0Wdump is being silly.  It's a null tell though.

Continuing, Mr.Person.  Your argument with CobaltKobold seems pretty normal for you.  Yelling furiously like everyone else is a mad man.  Unvote.  I'll just drop you down a bit and go to...

ExKirby, you're just being you're normal scummy self, yes?  Diakron pulled the same stunt in Bay12 and I do not want that to happen again.  Please stop being scummy and posting words that make it "look" like you're being yourself and shouldn't get lynched because you're always scummy.

[Mr.Person]

I don't think it creates a CT any more than "sane cop". Perhaps a bit less possibility of Godfather (or Miller), but all it does is give one investigator the knowledge, unless you set it up in the strange, public-announce Disciple of Truth style. Which does sort of go kablamf.

Scum can fakeclaim truthchecker just like they can fakeclaim cop (which they ha'e the information for anyway), so I don't see how you get a CT out of it.

Anyway, the other suspicions (listed after that) were not filtered on that (unclaiming) list, but some lined up anyway.

Your agitation is going up and up, Mr. Person. It does not look good to me.

So, what do people think of the {aliens, robots, ninjas, pirates, zombies} that ha'e been apparently brought up? Meaningful?

I think mine(pirates) was in reference to part of my role.

No, it's EXACTLY like the DoT, except you can use the ability every single day. The DoT was overpowered, what makes you think an EVEN MORE powerful role is ok? Trust me, Webadict is a good mod, he won't add a truth-checking role. What happens is that if a person has that role, they should check somebody now and claim it. Trust me, even if the mafia decides to kill you tonight, it's worth trading your life for a CT.

Oh gasp, there's no such role, is there? Shoot, who would of guessed?

[ExKirby]

Sorry people. I quess I need a replacement =(

[webadict]

Sorry people. I quess I need a replacement =(

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[SHAD0Wdump]

I'm basically mocking Vector's previous vote on me without any reasoning.

I also have extreme doubts about all these faction names,Unless there is a individual with some connection to all of this. Perhaps a person who can turn others into their role sub-messages.