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[Blargityblarg]

There's simply not enough help for all of us. There's starving third world country inhabitants whose hardship is so much that they might as well live in a different planet from us. There's people in developing countries who is stuck in a dead end job, doomed to suffer for the rest of their life, living only under the slim hope that things will get better.

The only reason for people like this to continue on, to suffer for others, is because of the lie fabricated by the upper class. Hope. They're all empty promises.

Death, on the other hand, is the only promise that can't be broken. The only true way for us to transcend this animalistic and selfish urge to live, to be slaves to this sadistic being called Life, is to die.

I think you're seriously underestimating people's ability to be happy.

[hops]

I want to draw the distinction between having enough to live and having enough for life to be worth something. Most of you here are evidently privileged enough to be able to afford to be on the internet, but your life fucking sucks.

[4maskwolf]

* Kevak huggles Objective

Also this.
But yes--there is enough help for all of us.
Problem being, many things in between >_> Like people not acting, inaction, or the lack of action. For one point--I'm in a third world country. Most of our problems stem from either abuse of authority or lack of dutiful work done (I mean wow, food shortage--and our rice warehouses had rice being spoiled in storage because they were being unused, as an example)

On another note...4maskedwolf?
Alt of 4maskwolf? o-O

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Who...

[Fniff]

I want to draw the distinction between having enough to live and having enough for life to be worth something. Most of you here are evidently privileged enough to be able to afford to be on the internet, but your life fucking sucks.

That's a very big assumption to be making. Besides, there is a difference between how your life is going and how you personally feel. Hence why America has a high amount of depressed people despite being one of the most prosperous countries in the world.

[hops]

I want to draw the distinction between having enough to live and having enough for life to be worth something. Most of you here are evidently privileged enough to be able to afford to be on the internet, but your life fucking sucks.

That's a very big assumption to be making. Besides, there is a difference between how your life is going and how you personally feel. Hence why America has a high amount of depressed people despite being one of the most prosperous countries in the world.

That jut shows that even if you're prosperous, life is still not worth living.

[Criptfeind]

* Kevak huggles Objective

Also this.
But yes--there is enough help for all of us.
Problem being, many things in between >_> Like people not acting, inaction, or the lack of action. For one point--I'm in a third world country. Most of our problems stem from either abuse of authority or lack of dutiful work done (I mean wow, food shortage--and our rice warehouses had rice being spoiled in storage because they were being unused, as an example)

On another note...4maskedwolf?
Alt of 4maskwolf? o-O

...
Who...

WTF is this.

[Xantalos]

I want to draw the distinction between having enough to live and having enough for life to be worth something. Most of you here are evidently privileged enough to be able to afford to be on the internet, but your life fucking sucks.

That's a very big assumption to be making. Besides, there is a difference between how your life is going and how you personally feel. Hence why America has a high amount of depressed people despite being one of the most prosperous countries in the world.

That jut shows that even if you're prosperous, life is still not worth living.

Nah.

[4maskwolf]

* Kevak huggles Objective

Also this.
But yes--there is enough help for all of us.
Problem being, many things in between >_> Like people not acting, inaction, or the lack of action. For one point--I'm in a third world country. Most of our problems stem from either abuse of authority or lack of dutiful work done (I mean wow, food shortage--and our rice warehouses had rice being spoiled in storage because they were being unused, as an example)

On another note...4maskedwolf?
Alt of 4maskwolf? o-O

...
Who...

WTF is this.

That is not mine. Dunno why the names are similar.

4maskedwolf: what's with the name, and why is it so similar to mine?

[TD1]

I want to draw the distinction between having enough to live and having enough for life to be worth something. Most of you here are evidently privileged enough to be able to afford to be on the internet, but your life fucking sucks.

That's a very big assumption to be making. Besides, there is a difference between how your life is going and how you personally feel. Hence why America has a high amount of depressed people despite being one of the most prosperous countries in the world.

That jut shows that even if you're prosperous, life is still not worth living.

I value my life. I like my life. I want to live my life. I am maudlin now and then, but I don't simply state that because I'm sad everyone else must be, and therefore everyone would be better dead.

[Truean]

Son of family friend arrested. All expect my defense; none expect to pay.
I refuse, but advise on extreme severity of charges. Attorney required. Advice refused.
Prosecutor and Judge repeatedly urge legal representation. He can afford, but will not pay.
Son of family friend proceeds to trail without representation. Failure expected. Failure occurs.
Son of family friend gives politically motivated self delusional defense. No legal basis. Failure. Epic.
Significant criminal sentence, with additional contempt of court charges delivered: 3 years, 1 year suspended.

Son of family friend imprisoned. All despise me; none listened; none paid.
I point this out, advise that I warned him an attorney was required. He refused. They don't care.
His mother repeatedly slaps me in face. I gently catch and redirection roll her hands to avoid harm to her and I.
She exhausts herself attempting to assault me. Her husband, still upset with me, is only mildly upset with her.
I explain her actions constitute a crime, but it may not be reported if she stops. She does, reluctantly.

I am numb. They are upset. He is imprisoned. Only he and his family are shocked by this. All others saw it coming.

I am not allowing myself to emotionally process anything right now. My thoughts, complex, yet concise.
I realize I am sad, but cannot feel it right now. I am disappointed, and weary of being blamed for others' mistakes.

Hiding depression as counterproductive. Short term strategy. Attempting to focus on more fruitful thoughts. [sigh].

[Kadzar]

Death, on the other hand, is the only promise that can't be broken. The only true way for us to transcend this animalistic and selfish urge to live, to be slaves to this sadistic being called Life, is to die.

But it's a shitty promise. We can be entirely sure what it offers, but the most reasonable guess is nothing. Some other guesses say that suicide will just make things much worse for the individual.

And if you're bothered by the state of the world, offing yourself doesn't help anything; it just makes the world a little bit worse. Things can get better if we work at them, but they won't get better if people just say it's all too difficult and give up.

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I want to draw the distinction between having enough to live and having enough for life to be worth something. Most of you here are evidently privileged enough to be able to afford to be on the internet, but your life fucking sucks.

That's a very big assumption to be making. Besides, there is a difference between how your life is going and how you personally feel. Hence why America has a high amount of depressed people despite being one of the most prosperous countries in the world.

That jut shows that even if you're prosperous, life is still not worth living.

No, it just shows that money ≠ happiness.

[~Neri]

I think you made the right decision. Although you should probably remember to deal with the emotions when you can safely.

[MaximumZero]

There's simply not enough help for all of us. There's starving third world country inhabitants whose hardship is so much that they might as well live in a different planet from us. There's people in developing countries who is stuck in a dead end job, doomed to suffer for the rest of their life, living only under the slim hope that things will get better.

The only reason for people like this to continue on, to suffer for others, is because of the lie fabricated by the upper class. Hope. They're all empty promises.

Death, on the other hand, is the only promise that can't be broken. The only true way for us to transcend this animalistic and selfish urge to live, to be slaves to this sadistic being called Life, is to die.

Okay, young padawan, it's time for an adult perspective.

* MaximumZero cracks his knuckles and sets to work.

Your argument is flawed. Deeply. And I can poke a hole in it with just one pin, and I have that pin because I used to think exactly the same way. Here it comes, you ready? You get to make your own meaning. Yeah, it's a struggle for most of us. Yes, there are worse off and better off, more broken and less broken, more hopeful and less hopeful people. There are people, most people, who will never reach their ultimate meaning, and some people find meaning in having no meaning (read: Hanslanda.) Your life really, really sucks right now, or so you would have us believe. There are plenty of people who are worse off, but that's really irrelevant because we can only perceive our own reality. The other people in the world may as well be aliens.

Life is worth living because you can make it worth living. I came from the slums, grew up in such severe poverty that most doctors agree that I should have died of malnourishment years ago, wound up homeless and seriously injured, and clawed and scratched and fought (sometimes literally fought) my way into having a pretty good life, all considered. When I was a small child, I wound up beaten six out of seven days a week (no hyperbole), and I had some of the most horrific things you can imagine done to me. I have scars in places people shouldn't be able to scar. I wanted to give up on life for a long time, and no one blamed me. Hell, I attempted suicide twice. Thankfully, I failed both times. Nowadays, I'm happily married with a decent home, a halfway decent job with good prospects, a wonderful daughter, and a baby on the way. I find meaning in all of that stuff, even if you don't. You get to find your own meaning. You may not have the power to do that now, being so young, but you can start putting your own stamp on your own life. Find meaning in small things, like music, or poetry, or a hobby, or a skill, and run with it. I was never so alive as when I was in a chain-link cage wearing what amounted to a pair of spandex underwear with hundreds or a couple thousand people screaming for my blood.

So, buck the hell up, stop whining about life being hard, and go find some damned meaning in something. You have to figure out what this is all about, and no one can do it for you, even though they will try incessantly. Despite what people tell you, your life is all about you, and it's worth living because you can make life whatever you want.

[4maskwolf]

You know why I stick around in the land of the living, Objective?

Because I have a mission.

I have made it my goal in life to help others.

I have no reason to die because the good of others is something to live for.

As long as I help others, it doesn't matter that I am unhappy. I just do my best to accomplish my task set forth by myself.

[TD1]

My reason to live is because I bloody well don't want to die, and I hate a defeatist attitude.