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Author Topic: [MILK] There were 12 eggs here what did you do with them? (Happy thread?!)  (Read 16232017 times)

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« Reply #185850 on: July 01, 2018, 06:33:41 am »

Adventure mode > fort mode IMO.
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« Reply #185851 on: July 01, 2018, 06:56:31 am »

After having not really played DF in years, I just broke through my first aquifer.
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Adventure mode > fort mode IMO.
Adventure mode is improved with reference to fort mode, and vice versa. They're both kinda awesome, and that's even with some of those game-ending bugs.
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« Reply #185852 on: July 01, 2018, 07:18:24 am »

Adventure mode can be fun, of course, but it's a lot less feature-complete than fort mode and a lot more buggy.
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« Reply #185853 on: July 01, 2018, 07:23:51 am »

I've played df for over 10 years now (to and fro) and I've never bothered to learn how to deal with aquifers. These days I just remove them from the game entirely because they seem to be absolutely everywhere in the modern versions. I don't remember them being so ubiquitous in the olden days.
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« Reply #185854 on: July 01, 2018, 08:42:11 am »

I've never figured out how to play adventure mode.
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« Reply #185855 on: July 01, 2018, 08:59:24 am »

I've played df for over 10 years now (to and fro) and I've never bothered to learn how to deal with aquifers. These days I just remove them from the game entirely because they seem to be absolutely everywhere in the modern versions. I don't remember them being so ubiquitous in the olden days.

I embark on volcanoes and don't deal with aquifers. Easy magma and instant FTW machine possibilities.
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« Reply #185856 on: July 01, 2018, 09:21:44 am »

I've played df for over 10 years now (to and fro) and I've never bothered to learn how to deal with aquifers. These days I just remove them from the game entirely because they seem to be absolutely everywhere in the modern versions. I don't remember them being so ubiquitous in the olden days.
It's been a while since I last played  (FPS death concerns and all... even though I have the beefiest PCs I've had in a while), but there were basically three methods

- Find a breach in the aquifer. More likely than not the aquifer doesn't fill the whole layer, and often you can find areas in which there is no aquifer and you can dig down to the lower levels. This is likely the simplest method but depending on how lucky you are and the layout of the strata, it might be either very easy, or very hard  (and annoying: "digging designation cancelled: dampstone located". Not sure whether that warning can be turned off without your dwarves flooding your fortress) or impossible.

- Collapse natural terrain on top: This is favored by some people. I personally found it cumbersome. The theory goes that if you collapse enough natural walls on top of the aquifer, they will replace the aquifer tiles, and you'll be able to dig through. Artificial walls do NOT replace the underlying terrain so it doesn't work. Anyway, I never liked this one because it requires you to have sufficient overhead Z levels to begin with, setup is very hard, and there are no guarantees (you don't know how DEEP the aquifer layer is)

- Pump rig: I used to favor this one. Basically you use a pump to remove water from an aquifer tile onto another aquifer tile. Add pumps and dig more tiles as necessary. The main problem is that in recent game versions aquifer tiles are more often than not dirt, rather than solid rock. Which is a problem because smoothing rock to remove the aquifer is simple, whereas with dirt you have to dig it out and replace it with an artificial wall, whose construction is being interrupted over and over... you get the idea.  All in all, it's pretty foolproof, but very labor intensive. And if there are multiple layers you'll need bigger overhead holes as to be able to repeat the process, which might require you to reform your original hole, making it even more labor intensive, etc.. 
My biggest qualm is that there is not a simple automated way of doing it, and there really should be one.  Eg, making building jobs autorestart, etc...


All that being said, I do like aquifers as infinite sources of water to play around.
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« Reply #185857 on: July 01, 2018, 09:28:23 am »

If you get a volcano and aquifer its really easy to breach via obsidian casting (then the tricky part of remove excess magma, made easier by having a constant supply of water). Labour intensive but once its working you have free obsidian.
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« Reply #185858 on: July 01, 2018, 09:31:30 am »

I mean I know of the ways to do it. #1 is only viable if you got more than one "terrain area", for example, and for #2 you need like at least 5 or more dirt layers on top of the aquifier (which I have literally never found an area with in 10+ years of playing), and #3 just seem to take too long time to get going. Not worth the hassle
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« Reply #185859 on: July 01, 2018, 09:50:50 am »

I've never figured out how to play adventure mode.
It's easier if you're into roguelikes, like me.

My phone autocorrects "roguelikes" into "motorbikes".
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« Reply #185860 on: July 01, 2018, 10:13:57 am »

I mean I know of the ways to do it. #1 is only viable if you got more than one "terrain area", for example, and for #2 you need like at least 5 or more dirt layers on top of the aquifier (which I have literally never found an area with in 10+ years of playing), and #3 just seem to take too long time to get going. Not worth the hassle
IMO the real problem for 3 is thst nowadays most aqs are multilayer. And thus it goes from middling labor intensive to hell on earth
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« Reply #185861 on: July 01, 2018, 01:21:22 pm »

They added a new gatling gun to splatoon 2.

Its modeled after those 90's thick select-a-color pens.
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« Reply #185862 on: July 01, 2018, 02:42:26 pm »

I actually got Armok Vision to build workshops.

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« Reply #185863 on: July 01, 2018, 04:37:10 pm »

They added a new gatling gun to splatoon 2.

Its modeled after those 90's thick select-a-color pens.
Okay, that's really cool!


...and #3 just seem to take too long time to get going. Not worth the hassle
It wasn't that bad, I just followed a guide and did it first thing after embarking... I did luck out and find a single-layer aquifer on my first try, though. Maybe next time I'll challenge myself and take on a multi-layer one, but probably not, haha.


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It seems "FTB" will forever be a mudsex term in my mind. :-[ 😅
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« Reply #185864 on: July 01, 2018, 04:46:37 pm »

Feed the beast, it's a minecraft modpack launcher with it's own modpacks
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