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[Rysith]

So, that looks like an exterminator kill and a dopp kill. The interesting thing, though, is what, if anything, the power roles found out last night. I say this, of course, since I'm horrible at scumhunting.

I'd guess that Kashyyk was a random kill. I'm not entirely sure, though, since I can't think of a reason why an operative would have objected to a random non-alien lynch (he defended Twiggie, but not much else). He certainly didn't seem suspicious to me, other than not posting much or explaining his thinking.

Twiggie was protecting someone, though. It would be interesting to find out who.

[Pandarsenic]

So, that looks like an exterminator kill and a dopp kill. The interesting thing, though, is what, if anything, the power roles found out last night. I say this, of course, since I'm horrible at scumhunting.

I'd guess that Kashyyk was a random kill. I'm not entirely sure, though, since I can't think of a reason why an operative would have objected to a random non-alien lynch (he defended Twiggie, but not much else). He certainly didn't seem suspicious to me, other than not posting much or explaining his thinking.

Twiggie was protecting someone, though. It would be interesting to find out who.

The only way to find out is through a Medium. If we're willing to risk trading Medium for a Dopp, if he exists, we could have Medium PM who was guarded to a random person to post the results, and if the legit medium dies that night, the reposter is probably Dopp/Exterminator.

[Rysith]

The only way to find out is through a Medium. If we're willing to risk trading Medium for a Dopp, if he exists, we could have Medium PM who was guarded to a random person to post the results, and if the legit medium dies that night, the reposter is probably Dopp/Exterminator.

That's not worth it at all. If I were an anti-town role and I got it, I'd just not bother to repost it (or not target the medium to avoid suspicion). I was hoping that the person who had been protected (since they had already been targeted) would be willing to come forward, but that seems rather unlikely as well.

However, if I were Twiggie, I likely would have protected one of the people likely to be targeted, such as Webadict, Inaluct, or ChaoticJosh. That they were targeted likely means that they were pro-town (though my suspicions of them being exterminator-killed don't rule out being a dopp). That he died protecting them also means that he wasn't considered important enough for any of the killing roles to go after last night, which is interesting given the lack of prominent deaths going on.

[Mr.Person]

The only way to find out is through a Medium. If we're willing to risk trading Medium for a Dopp, if he exists, we could have Medium PM who was guarded to a random person to post the results, and if the legit medium dies that night, the reposter is probably Dopp/Exterminator.

That's not worth it at all. If I were an anti-town role and I got it, I'd just not bother to repost it (or not target the medium to avoid suspicion). I was hoping that the person who had been protected (since they had already been targeted) would be willing to come forward, but that seems rather unlikely as well.

However, if I were Twiggie, I likely would have protected one of the people likely to be targeted, such as Webadict, Inaluct, or ChaoticJosh. That they were targeted likely means that they were pro-town (though my suspicions of them being exterminator-killed don't rule out being a dopp). That he died protecting them also means that he wasn't considered important enough for any of the killing roles to go after last night, which is interesting given the lack of prominent deaths going on.

If the person doesn't post the PM, the medium would PM another person and draw heavy suspicion to the non-poster, especially if said non-poster made other posts.

Medium can't be a dopp, right?

[Pandarsenic]

The only way to find out is through a Medium. If we're willing to risk trading Medium for a Dopp, if he exists, we could have Medium PM who was guarded to a random person to post the results, and if the legit medium dies that night, the reposter is probably Dopp/Exterminator.

That's not worth it at all. If I were an anti-town role and I got it, I'd just not bother to repost it (or not target the medium to avoid suspicion). I was hoping that the person who had been protected (since they had already been targeted) would be willing to come forward, but that seems rather unlikely as well.

However, if I were Twiggie, I likely would have protected one of the people likely to be targeted, such as Webadict, Inaluct, or ChaoticJosh. That they were targeted likely means that they were pro-town (though my suspicions of them being exterminator-killed don't rule out being a dopp). That he died protecting them also means that he wasn't considered important enough for any of the killing roles to go after last night, which is interesting given the lack of prominent deaths going on.

If the person doesn't post the PM, the medium would PM another person and draw heavy suspicion to the non-poster, especially if said non-poster made other posts.

Medium can't be a dopp, right?

This also leaves the risk of a fake Medium claim, but with Lynch All Liars policy in effect anyway, that would have the same end result.

Medium can't be Dopp - look at first post.

The medium would probably be best only contacting one person.

[webadict]

So, that looks like an exterminator kill and a dopp kill. The interesting thing, though, is what, if anything, the power roles found out last night. I say this, of course, since I'm horrible at scumhunting.

I'd guess that Kashyyk was a random kill. I'm not entirely sure, though, since I can't think of a reason why an operative would have objected to a random non-alien lynch (he defended Twiggie, but not much else). He certainly didn't seem suspicious to me, other than not posting much or explaining his thinking.

Twiggie was protecting someone, though. It would be interesting to find out who.

The only way to find out is through a Medium. If we're willing to risk trading Medium for a Dopp, if he exists, we could have Medium PM who was guarded to a random person to post the results, and if the legit medium dies that night, the reposter is probably Dopp/Exterminator.

Except that the Bodyguard isn't told who they guarded against, though, do they?

The only way to find out is through a Medium. If we're willing to risk trading Medium for a Dopp, if he exists, we could have Medium PM who was guarded to a random person to post the results, and if the legit medium dies that night, the reposter is probably Dopp/Exterminator.

That's not worth it at all. If I were an anti-town role and I got it, I'd just not bother to repost it (or not target the medium to avoid suspicion). I was hoping that the person who had been protected (since they had already been targeted) would be willing to come forward, but that seems rather unlikely as well.

However, if I were Twiggie, I likely would have protected one of the people likely to be targeted, such as Webadict, Inaluct, or ChaoticJosh. That they were targeted likely means that they were pro-town (though my suspicions of them being exterminator-killed don't rule out being a dopp). That he died protecting them also means that he wasn't considered important enough for any of the killing roles to go after last night, which is interesting given the lack of prominent deaths going on.

If the person doesn't post the PM, the medium would PM another person and draw heavy suspicion to the non-poster, especially if said non-poster made other posts.

Medium can't be a dopp, right?

Medium cannot.

So we know that there's an Exterminator alien atleast. I'd guess Webadict, since he pushed the vote to get someone lynched yesterday, when I only wanted it tied.

Sorry I didn't unvote you Toebighter, but if there was an enchanter among the three that voted for me, then that would've spelt my doom.

I'm voting AFD, cause hopping onto the Alexhans train to get me lynch seemed like the most convenient thing for him, and if he were a dopp, fueling Alex's fervor would draw no suspicion to himself while also forwarding his own agenda.

Me? Exterminator? AGAIN? I don't wish to be (nor am I) that role. And I didn't push the vote on anyone. I made sure there was a lynch, which is a little different from pushing. I mean, there's only so much we can learn from ties.

Now, back to the list:

Player List:

• Archangel
• inaluct
• TheToeBighter98, Aggressive War Vet
• Org
• Mr.Person
• R1ck
• Frelock
• Pandarsenic
• chaoticjosh
• NUKE9.13
• Twiggie, Bodyguard
• Cheeetar
• Flintus10
• Alexhans
• webadict
• Rysith
• A_Fey_Dwarf
• Kashyyk, Alien Operative

This is a realy crappy vote list, documenting everyone's vote and their vote number:
Player List:

• Archangel
• inaluct - webadict(3, OMGUS), abstain, Twiggie(3, OMGUS), abstain
• TheToeBighter98 - NUKE9.13(OMGUS), Frelock(2)
• Org - Twiggie(5)
• Mr.Person - Kashyyk, Twiggie(4), abstain
• R1ck
• Frelock
• Pandarsenic - chaoticjosh, webadict(?, 2), Twiggie(6)
• chaoticjosh - Twiggie(2), abstain, NUKE9.13(2), TheToeBighter98(4 -> 3)
• NUKE9.13 - webadict, The ToeBighter98, Twiggie, abstain
• Twiggie - Org, inaluct(2), chaoticjosh(3)
• Cheeetar
• Flintus10 - TheToeBighter98(2)
• Alexhans - Mr.Person, chaoticjosh
• webadict - inaluct, Alexhans, Frelock, TheToeBighted98(5 -> 4)
• Rysith
• A_Fey_Dwarf - R1ck, Mr.Person, chaoticjosh(2)
• Kashyyk - ThetoeBighter98(3 -> 2)

Based on this: Archangel, R1ck, Frelock, and Rysith did not randomly vote yesterday. As well, I'm also suspicious of inaluct, on account of the double OMGUS-Third votes, and then the abstain at the end.

Frelock, who do you think is scum?
Archangel, who do you think is town?

Going to bed. This post took forever...

[R1ck]

Well, I think that we can probably rule out chaoticjosh as the one that Twiggie defended, since Twiggie did vote for him yesterday.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

So we know that there's an Exterminator alien atleast. I'd guess Webadict, since he pushed the vote to get someone lynched yesterday, when I only wanted it tied.

Sorry I didn't unvote you Toebighter, but if there was an enchanter among the three that voted for me, then that would've spelt my doom.

Scummy excuse.

I'm voting AFD, cause hopping onto the Alexhans train to get me lynch seemed like the most convenient thing for him, and if he were a dopp, fueling Alex's fervor would draw no suspicion to himself while also forwarding his own agenda.

A delayed OMGUS vote? Poorly played Josh, very suspicious. I'm going to carry on my vote from yesterday and vote for you again today. Vote Chaoticjosh.

[Pandarsenic]

So, that looks like an exterminator kill and a dopp kill. The interesting thing, though, is what, if anything, the power roles found out last night. I say this, of course, since I'm horrible at scumhunting.

I'd guess that Kashyyk was a random kill. I'm not entirely sure, though, since I can't think of a reason why an operative would have objected to a random non-alien lynch (he defended Twiggie, but not much else). He certainly didn't seem suspicious to me, other than not posting much or explaining his thinking.

Twiggie was protecting someone, though. It would be interesting to find out who.

The only way to find out is through a Medium. If we're willing to risk trading Medium for a Dopp, if he exists, we could have Medium PM who was guarded to a random person to post the results, and if the legit medium dies that night, the reposter is probably Dopp/Exterminator.

Except that the Bodyguard isn't told who they guarded against, though, do they?

They know whom they protected, though.

And Webby, being Exterminator last round makes it no less probable that you are this round. Gambler's Fallacy and such. (The edit was this to avoid double-posting, though I suppose I'll just double-post in the future?)

[Cheeetar]

Webadict, on your list it says I did not vote anyone, (Which is true), and then you forget to put me in your list of people who did not randomly vote. I feel left out.
Also, I'm suspicious as to how whoever Twiggie died against didn't die. Does this mean that there is a Dopp surgeon, or someone with a shield? It's possible Kashyyk attacked someone, broke his shield on Twiggie and then was attacked by a dopp.

[Pandarsenic]

As well, I'm also suspicious of inaluct, on account of the double OMGUS-Third votes, and then the abstain at the end.

Thinkin' the same thing.

Also, FoS Chaoticjosh for his behavior.

[TheToeBighter98]

Just so you know this clearly, I am haunting those who murdered me. That is all.

[Alexhans]

Pandar:  cool.  I'm glad you don't just vote Nuke because of your earlier statements.  Take your time to analize the game.

I'm satisfied by the explanation.  Don't need to check your history.

Well:  Nonposters should know by now that they SERIOUSLY need to contribute to the game or we will be in trouble.

with 15 people left.  5 dopps and one Exterminator we have 6/15 evil roles wich is a 40 %.  Assuming some mislynches we have little time to play around. 

People who havent voted yesterday for at least 2 times...  Who are you suspicious of?  WHY?
(Saying you're not suspicious of anybody yet it's not an option and I will push your lynch you if you say so)

Shower eh?  Do you need to remove dry blood from body?

I'd guess that Kashyyk was a random kill. I'm not entirely sure, though, since I can't think of a reason why an operative would have objected to a random non-alien lynch (he defended Twiggie, but not much else).

Excuse me, I don't quite follow what you're saying here.  Can you rephrase please?

Twiggie was protecting someone, though. It would be interesting to find out who.

How do we know who was protected?  Flavour?

Pandar:  Trading a medium for just ONE dopp is a BAD idea.  It would be better to wait until we have more deaths and more info from the graveyard.

However, if I were Twiggie, I likely would have protected one of the people likely to be targeted, such as Webadict, Inaluct, or ChaoticJosh. That they were targeted likely means that they were pro-town (though my suspicions of them being exterminator-killed don't rule out being a dopp). That he died protecting them also means that he wasn't considered important enough for any of the killing roles to go after last night, which is interesting given the lack of prominent deaths going on.

So... how you KNOW that a killing role targetted web, Josh or inaluct? and twiggie protected them? Why do you think someone didn't target twiggie himself? (I have a theory but I want your answer)

So Josh, web and inaluct are not dopps in your opinion?

Medium can't be a dopp, right?

I remember everyone that the first post has a list of roles and information about them.

Except that the Bodyguard isn't told who they guarded against, though, do they?

Good point.

Pandar was about to trade a medium for useless info about a bodyguards target.

Archangel NEEDS to stop lurking as he always does... there's no way of reading him like that.  R1ck... don't remember much from him.
Frelock... Stop being passive Frelock!  I prefer agressive Frelock like in IRC once... I don't care if you think you mess up.  We NEED you to post SOMETHING.  Cheeetar... Another dangerous lurker.  But I know he can be active and he many times choses not to (Like on M&M mafia as a Lovecraftian Horror)...

IGMEOY Cheetar (I've got my eye on you)

Rysith.  I'm happy you're posting what you think.  Keep going.  Try to scumhunt even though you're not self-confident.  If you never start you will never learn from mistakes.

Org and Flintus are 2 characters that I have to look into again.  I want to see what were their reasons and playstyle.  I think they didn't post much content.

web... why did you leave Cheeetar out of you no-RVS players?

Well, I think that we can probably rule out chaoticjosh as the one that Twiggie defended, since Twiggie did vote for him yesterday.

true.  Anything else?

A_Fey_Dwarf: As you might recall from yesterday.  I agree with you... but have you any comments about the night events? about anything at all? 

They know whom they protected, though.

So?  You'd trade a medium for that info?

And Webby, being Exterminator last round makes it no less probable that you are this round. Gambler's Fallacy and such. (The edit was this to avoid double-posting, though I suppose I'll just double-post in the future?)

Hey!  Remember Karlito... the FOREVER child.

Also, I'm suspicious as to how whoever Twiggie died against didn't die.

Paranormal bodyguard just dies instead of the target... he DOESNT kill the attacker.

OH... about inaluct's OMGUSes... meh... I'm not sure... I sure know that he is a grudgy, irrational player who can make the following newb thought process:
"Hey, that guy is voting for me... he must be scum cuz I'm town!  Vote That guy"

Anyway... I wanna hear from him too.

Also, FoS Chaoticjosh for his behavior.

Specifically why?

[JoshuaFH]

I'm surprised no one has brought this possibility up yet: there is no townie protector. Twiggie roleclaimed bodyguard, so the town protector will protect him as he protects somebody else, thus creating a protectee < bodyguard < Protector chain that is perfectly safe so long as the protector is unknown. So, safe bet right? Well, it's not, apparently, as the protector either didn't believe Twiggie, was roleblocked, or doesn't exist to begin with.

Also, it appears AFD doesn't like me being adversarial. I wonder why.

And while I'm appreciative, I still don't get why Webadict went out of his way to "protect" me. Breaking a tie in my favor would only throw suspicion on me, and it would be most beneficial for him if he were a dopp, a survivor, or an exterminator, and the possibility that he's any is very real.

Now, Let me propose a theory. If we assume that all dopps are active, and that all dopps voted last round, then, excluding myself and the deceased, the candidates for dopphood are:

AFD, Alexhans, Flintus, Kashyyk, Webadict, Org, and Pandarsenic.

With 5 dopps, we have a 5/7 of hitting a dopp. Of course, I could be totally wrong.

Hey Flintus! Come on out and talk with us already!

[Pandarsenic]

Shower eh?  Do you need to remove dry blood from body?
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Pandar:  Trading a medium for just ONE dopp is a BAD idea.  It would be better to wait until we have more deaths and more info from the graveyard.
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Pandar was about to trade a medium for useless info about a bodyguards target.
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Rysith.  I'm happy you're posting what you think.  Keep going.  Try to scumhunt even though you're not self-confident.  If you never start you will never learn from mistakes.
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They know whom they protected, though.

So?  You'd trade a medium for that info?
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OH... about inaluct's OMGUSes... meh... I'm not sure... I sure know that he is a grudgy, irrational player who can make the following newb thought process:
"Hey, that guy is voting for me... he must be scum cuz I'm town!  Vote That guy"

Also, FoS Chaoticjosh for his behavior.

Specifically why?

Re: Shower - Not cool, man, I've been without hot water for like 3 days. D:
Re: Medium - The Medium has been a powerful role in the past, true - but keep in mind, it's not trade Medium for Dopp, OR trade Medium for whom Twiggie guarded. It's find out who Twiggie guarded with a possibility of Dopps or Exterminator discovering who it is - in which case, the trade of Medium for Dopp happens in addition to finding out Twiggie's target.
Re: inaluct - He can think that, or he might be more calculating. With inaluct, you can never be quite sure.

Spoiler: FoS on chaoticjosh (click to show/hide)

Day 1, I call him out on silence and he claims computer issues, talks about a "lengthy and indepth monologue of [his] suspicion" he'll post later... but the game had been running all of 6 hours by then and most of the game so far had been discussion of the Operative's powers. His suspicion post the next day says that he knows nothing about inaluct; he then calls out who we now know to be an AWV, webadict, and Nuke. I find it a bit suspicious, in fact, that he didn't have any suspicion of me - the Big 5 (Pandarsenic/Alexhans/Inaluct/Webadict/Chaoticjosh) are almost always perpetually suspicious of each other. I think he may have been making a point of avoiding even an OMGUS FoS, while he mentions how webadict voted twice, possibly trying to draw away attention. He then ASKED FOR THE PROTECTOR TO CHOOSE HIM and said he was confused about who was voting for whom. When the Twiggie bandwagon started rolling, he voted second (perhaps trying to get a bandwagon rolling and get in before the Suspicion Point?) while FoSing you.

At this point, I realized chaoticjosh NEVER random-voted. He went straight to Twiggie then failed to post for most of Day 1 until he complained that we weren't killing Twiggie post-roleclaim... after which, he voted for NUKE9.13, echoing my suspicion of him earlier - making me wonder if he switched from calling out webadict over and over to going out of his way to do things that won't draw the attention of other Big 5 members.

REACTION TO NEW POST: He has just give a Finger of Suspicion to every other Big 5 member except for inaluct, whom he earlier seemed to be screening against webadict (who is on his new suspicion list).

Actually, hell. Let's see what Chaoticjosh has to say about those, shall we?

Also, I feel a repeat of my FoS on Nuke for asking to be investigated if Twiggie flipped town (which he since has) is in order.