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uberubert

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Re: Help Convincing Friends to play Dwarf Fortress?
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2009, 04:22:43 pm »

I recently tried hard to convince a few of my friends. I even threw in a fancy tileset, and started an adventurer to show them the combat system. I was surprised to hear one of them say "Well with those graphics, it almost looks like a game".
Then they proceeded to claim that the game was terrible because it looked terrible, and kept complaining about how aweful it was for me to be playing such a horrible game.
"oof... just oof" were the exact words IIRC.

My friends are idiots. I should probably construct a hole in the ground, filled with nothing but computers with dwarf fortress installed, and a drawbridge connected to a pressure plate to drop my friends in. Then never let them out again, unless they try out the game 8)

I'm gonna try reconvincing another one next time I visit him (not one of those I recently tried convincing). He keeps complaining about new games being sucky because of "all flashy graphics and no real gameplay". Why he isn't even trying out the game is extremely puzzling  :-\
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Re: Help Convincing Friends to play Dwarf Fortress?
« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2009, 04:59:24 pm »

I recently tried hard to convince a few of my friends. I even threw in a fancy tileset, and started an adventurer to show them the combat system. I was surprised to hear one of them say "Well with those graphics, it almost looks like a game".
Then they proceeded to claim that the game was terrible because it looked terrible, and kept complaining about how aweful it was for me to be playing such a horrible game.
"oof... just oof" were the exact words IIRC.

My friends are idiots. I should probably construct a hole in the ground, filled with nothing but computers with dwarf fortress installed, and a drawbridge connected to a pressure plate to drop my friends in. Then never let them out again, unless they try out the game 8)

I'm gonna try reconvincing another one next time I visit him (not one of those I recently tried convincing). He keeps complaining about new games being sucky because of "all flashy graphics and no real gameplay". Why he isn't even trying out the game is extremely puzzling  :-\
What if you brighten up the magma graphics? Look guys, it has BLOOM!
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Re: Help Convincing Friends to play Dwarf Fortress?
« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2009, 11:13:26 am »

You're just gonna have to live with the fact that Dwarf Fortress isn't going to appeal to everyone. It's a sandbox game with an insanely hard learning curve and painful vanilla graphics (at least for those players who aren't used to roguelikes, like myself). I still play with modified tilesets, and expect I always will.

What I would advise is find the geekier ones amongst your friends (the one's who play obscure games, or just a lot of games for instance), as they'll be the ones you have the best chance with. Actually send them a file with a graphics tileset already set up, maybe even with a save already active so that they don't have to go through the arduous task of choosing an embark location and skills. Link them to some of the better guides on the wiki and give them the wiki website. And then leave them to it. They may get the hang of it eventually. I know I went through quite a few failed forts and gave up on the game numerous times before I finally got the hang of it. I'm pretty sure I was in double figures for embarks by the time I actually had a fort survive more than a few years. (And that was in 2d). Link them to some of the better community forts too (Boatmurdered as many have mentioned already, and Nist Akath too, as well as any others you may like). Finally ask them not to delete the file, in case they feel like coming back to it sometime. I think quite a lot of players will dip into and out of the game a few times until they get a feel for it.
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Re: Help Convincing Friends to play Dwarf Fortress?
« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2009, 10:20:17 am »

Unless you teach them, it will probably take 20 or so vyoutube video tutorials. (captainduck's) I really wanted to play because it looked cool, so I spent 2 weeks waching 3-4 hours of captainduck's tutorials, and then voila! I could play!
Or you could go through the painful process of teaching them.
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Re: Help Convincing Friends to play Dwarf Fortress?
« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2009, 03:22:49 pm »

I see no point in trying to force someone to do something they don't want to.  It will NEVER happen.  I'll give a GREAT example: School.  Why some may find it enjoyable and a learning experience (myself) there are others that are taught young that learning is cruel and they will never change.  Same goes with the hubbub of graphics, they don't even play the game for the game, but for the art look.
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« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2009, 08:59:47 pm »

Its fine that it doesn't appeal to everyone. ...otherwise theses forums would be full of people complaining about graphics, interface, and complexity. This is a game crafted with love. No need to uh... pass it around like a cheap something off the street, if you get my drift. Caress it and cherish it.
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Re: Help Convincing Friends to play Dwarf Fortress?
« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2009, 09:15:08 pm »

This stuff is like snorting coo-can, but using gunpowder and through a straw.
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Re: Help Convincing Friends to play Dwarf Fortress?
« Reply #67 on: June 23, 2009, 07:22:02 am »

I showed one of my online friends a screenshot of DF once by accident.

His first reaction was: "That game looks fucking awesome, give me a torrent!"

I proceeded to tell him that he can download it for free, pointed him to the wiki, etc...
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Re: Help Convincing Friends to play Dwarf Fortress?
« Reply #68 on: June 23, 2009, 08:14:39 am »

I showed one of my online friends a screenshot of DF once by accident.

His first reaction was: "That game looks fucking awesome, give me a torrent!"

I proceeded to tell him that he can download it for free, pointed him to the wiki, etc...

Whoa? Must be a leecher who plays ASCII already? Is that even possible?
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Re: Help Convincing Friends to play Dwarf Fortress?
« Reply #69 on: June 23, 2009, 09:47:33 am »

I showed one of my online friends a screenshot of DF once by accident.

His first reaction was: "That game looks fucking awesome, give me a torrent!"

I proceeded to tell him that he can download it for free, pointed him to the wiki, etc...

 :o Cool... Where can i get friends like that? ;D

It reminds me tho... Should we maybe start a DF torrent? The game might get wider exposure.
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Re: Help Convincing Friends to play Dwarf Fortress?
« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2009, 09:49:19 am »

I played once, many months ago, and couldn't get past the learning curve.  Then I saw the Penny Arcade link to TinyPirate's step-by-step guide and, fueled by the uncompromising zeal of my PA fanboyism, I read that monstrous document and became hooked.
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