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[pilgrimboy]

So far, I played Dark Star One.  That was a neat fighting game, but there was not much to it except for looking really good.

Then I moved on to Freelancer.  It's a neat game, but I cannot get past the Pueblo quest.  It makes me take a fighting path in the main storyline to unlock star systems.  That frustrates me.  Just let me trade and accumulate a lot of money.

[Zaranthan]

Trust me, download the Discovery mod for Freelancer. It comes with an open singleplayer option so you can do just that, and it adds a LOT of content (like being able to fly those giant transports you see, since you're into trading).

The vanilla game is good, but the campaign drags, especially since it limits your access to better ships and gear to keep the challenge fair. Note that just because Juni tells you to meet her somewhere doesn't mean you have to drop everything and go. The plot will wait while you ship water back and forth, and you can even keep taking jobs.

[RAM]

X3 is the exact opposite, if you try to finish the main quest without first increasing your resources by several orders of magnitude you will find yourself facing absolutely ridiculous odds...

[Sowelu]

Freelancer was a BEAUTIFUL game, but I can't forgive it for the fact that you can turn on afterburners, then hit 'slide', and keep going at the afterburner speed after they run out when their physics normally wouldn't let you.

I beat it anyway and it was a ton of fun.

[Sean Mirrsen]

What's wrong with that? That's a perfect example of why newtonian physics are important in space games. Of course, I doubt you can infinetly accelerate in slide mode there (to my memory, only Edge of Chaos did that), so that's not a perfect display of newtonian physics, but meh.

[Sowelu]

See, the rest of the game is Star Wars-style "constant thrust = constant velocity" and that slide mode is the only way to cheat and get real physics.  When all the NPCs' afterburners run out, but yours essentially don't, it feels cheap.  I guess you could just not do it but what's the fun in that...etc.

[Sean Mirrsen]

That's really more of an AI problem. It feels cheap only because you're the only one around who's smart enough to do that - if the AI could see that you're sliding away and engage slide mode itself, I think that would be much better. It's the same in Edge of Chaos, unfortunately. If you turn off flight assist, you can accelerate to ridiculous velocities using the lateral thrusters - and the AI will be limited by the flight-assist's maximum speed for the ship. It feels a lot less cheap because they easily catch up to you in LDS, and missiles can travel at 10km/s, which takes some time to achieve if you're running away.

[pilgrimboy]

Trust me, download the Discovery mod for Freelancer. It comes with an open singleplayer option so you can do just that, and it adds a LOT of content (like being able to fly those giant transports you see, since you're into trading).

The vanilla game is good, but the campaign drags, especially since it limits your access to better ships and gear to keep the challenge fair. Note that just because Juni tells you to meet her somewhere doesn't mean you have to drop everything and go. The plot will wait while you ship water back and forth, and you can even keep taking jobs.

I had already installed the Discovery mod, but I still have the Juni quests and need the Pueblo quest to get out of the New York system.  Maybe I am doing something wrong with the mod.  The Freelancer Mod Manager says that it is the only active mod.

[Zaranthan]

I had already installed the Discovery mod, but I still have the Juni quests and need the Pueblo quest to get out of the New York system.  Maybe I am doing something wrong with the mod.  The Freelancer Mod Manager says that it is the only active mod.

Even better: Discovery gives AI ships all sorts of advantages to compensate for the fact that human players can fly circles around them, so the original campaign is damn near impossible due to the level restrictions.

When you hit the Activate Mod button in FLMM, you get a screen with a bunch of options. The last four define the OpenSP settings. It's not on by default.

[pilgrimboy]

Thanks.  I just got back on here to say that I found Open SP settings and changed them.  Now it works. 

That explains why that mission was impossible.  I was playing the original mission under the Discovery mod.

I look forward to playing it now.  I enjoyed it a lot before. 

On another note, I could not get past the controls on the Evochron demo.  I just did not like the way the ship flew.

[Zaranthan]

Play Freelancer long enough, and you will forever change your ability to enjoy any other control scheme. Every now and then I'll be playing a RTS game, send a bunch of troops halfway across the map, and try to activate my cruise engines. Hilarity ensues.