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[atomfullerene]

Was thinking about the oddities of using logs in a reaction to get food (If I read that correctly) but then I realized it actually does happen.  The Sago Palm is cut down and the pith (interior of the log) is removed to make a starchy food.  So it'd fit right in.

[umiman]

Maple syrup.

[alfie275]

They don't actually chop down the tree to get maple syrup do they? I always thought they drilled a hole and hung a bucket underneath to collect it.

[Willfor]

They don't actually chop down the tree to get maple syrup do they? I always thought they drilled a hole and hung a bucket underneath to collect it.

And after that the buckets are collected from a great many trees, it is boiled down until it is thick. When properly done there is no damage done whatsoever to the tree at all, and it's actually a rather environmentally non-impacting way to get (very, very basic) nutrients from the maple tree.

[Christes]

It would be cool if the dwarves could do that (though that might be more of an elf thing).  I would love to purchase "tree-honey" from elves.

It would also be used for getting rubber.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

do we really want rubber in DF  :\?

[Leafsnail]

They don't actually chop down the tree to get maple syrup do they? I always thought they drilled a hole and hung a bucket underneath to collect it.

You don't need to chop down a tree to make an ear ring, but...

[Sean Mirrsen]

There are already rubber trees. I made rubber a dull metal and made it available from "smelting" rubber tree logs. Fun stuff.

[InsanityPrelude]

Is your average computer even going to be able to handle all the new stuff this version tracks?

Edit: "The standard amount of layers (around 15) has been scrapped and increased dramatically, upwards of 50-100 layers."

Between that and individual wound tracking, it sounds like it'd bring just about any computer to its knees.

[Footkerchief]

do we really want rubber in DF  :\

"The Olmecs, Maya, Aztecs and others made solid and hollow rubber human figurines and wide rubber bands to fasten stone-headed axes to wooden handles."

It's never bad to have more ways to make axes and useless crafts.  Why wouldn't we want rubber in DF, exactly?

Is your average computer even going to be able to handle all the new stuff this version tracks?

It shouldn't be much slower, plus many people will get a speed boost from the 40d# merge:

Given the materials changes and such how will the new version compare to the 40d series in terms of speed?

It's more the underground layers and so on that can potentially have effects, I think.  There's a slight speed loss from tissues when it actually has to monitor temperatures, but it mostly doesn't have to do that.  I haven't done a lot of huge fights, but the arena didn't have a huge lag from the new model as far as I've noticed.  There are a few lag issues that need to be resolved in world generation and during embark, but I should be able to handle them.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Among other things, rubber is useful for training weapons. And law enforcement - rubber clubs ftw!

[Askot Bokbondeler]

yeah, and the chinese had gunpowder and stuff, but i'm a bit of an europocentrist when it comes to fantasy based on european mithology and folklore, and i allways thought that the technological level sought by toady was late medieval ages, and although meso-americans weren't at the middle ages, they were on early space age or late stone age, opinions vary

[Christes]

Well, if early Europeans had rubber trees on their doorstep, they probably would have used them.

[Reese]

On teh one hand, rubber trees are a South American tree, so doesn't really fit with the European medieval fantasy setting... On the other hand, we have all sorts of creatures from all over the world available, Jaguars, which are from South America, for one.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

yeah, it bothers me a little that dwarves have rubber trees on their doorstep