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[Bunny]

To be perfectly honest, I'd be absolutely okay with you guys talking about boobs. I guess I'm just one of those weird sorta girls that hates all that hair all over everything.

Ah, it's not that weird.  Although personally I prefer people that look like caveman/bear crossbreeds.  Just so long as there is no more talk of breasts as functioning shields! 

[darkflagrance]

Anybody else thin its odd that human are the only ape that grows mammary glands before birthing an offspring?

Human males used to be attracted to the buttocks of the female. You can still see this in other apes and monkeys that still frequently go on all four legs.

Since humans became upright, the butt became less noticeable, so the visual cues that used to be associated with the buttocks became associated with the chest instead.

So deep down, we all like big butts.

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Yes, this is how we will get to 1k

[HammerHand]

So deep down, we all like big butts.

And we cannot lie!

[darkflagrance]

By the way, I see that soldier migrants are no longer happening. That's good; they always got stuck on arrival for me. Although...

In the past, soldier migrants used to come bearing their own equipment; this saved me a couple of times in the past.

So when migrants with the skills of a former soldier arrive, can they still come with armor/weapons?

[Doomshifter]

So deep down, we all like big butts.

And we cannot lie!

Those other brothers can't deny! (and either can I!)

[John Keel]

By the way, I see that soldier migrants are no longer happening. That's good; they always got stuck on arrival for me. Although...

In the past, soldier migrants used to come bearing their own equipment; this saved me a couple of times in the past.

So when migrants with the skills of a former soldier arrive, can they still come with armor/weapons?

Did you have a barracks defined? I'm fairly sure that that's where they go when they arrive.

[Fedor]

Stay on topic....  Stay on topic...  Aw, impacted at the surface.

ANYway.  Was looking over Toady's latest devel notes.  Liked most of them, but this part:

I've compensated for that by giving migrants higher and more varied skills in general, including the skills of a former soldier at times.

not so much.  I honestly think that migrants ought to be nearly skill-less.  For several reasons, one of which is that I get to shape them to my fancy and cultivate strange moods.  Turning yet another peasant with nothing interesting about him except a word or two hidden in his character description into my leader/legendary glassmaker/champion is way cool.

[Rafal99]

By the way, I see that soldier migrants are no longer happening. That's good; they always got stuck on arrival for me. Although...

The problem only happens if they are at the same tile they spawned. You have to undraft them, let them move one tile and then draft them again, then they will move further normally. For them same reason you don't draft new migrants until they move at least one tile, or they will get stuck the same way as migrant soldiers do, and the rest of the migrant wave will wait for them to move before spawning.

I've compensated for that by giving migrants higher and more varied skills in general, including the skills of a former soldier at times.

not so much.  I honestly think that migrants ought to be nearly skill-less.  For several reasons, one of which is that I get to shape them to my fancy and cultivate strange moods.  Turning yet another peasant with nothing interesting about him except a word or two hidden in his character description into my leader/legendary glassmaker/champion is way cool.

I don't like the way migrants work currently. Seriously during their whole life they didn't learn a single skill? That was very bad imho, I am happy with the changes.
And I think of training 20 peasants in some useful skill to dabbling only to get a bigger chance of strange mood of this skill as an exploit.

[Silveron]

Has anyone else noticed that Doomshifter's avatar's hair... has thumbs?

[Dakk]

Weird. Its just hair. Though you seem to be against hair discussion in general. How we switch to mammary gland evolution? Your avatar is basically a bouncing pair of them.

Anybody else thin its odd that human are the only ape that grows mammary glands before birthing an offspring?

To be perfectly honest, I'd be absolutely okay with you guys talking about boobs. I guess I'm just one of those weird sorta girls that hates all that hair all over everything.

You are not alone, I abhor any kind of hair over any surface that isn't the head (head =/= face). I don' count as a girl though, even if I'm gay.

Anyway, I very much prefer migrants the way they are supposed to be now. It was frustating that 50% of every migrant wave consisted solely of skilless dwarves. Plus, its not like there's anything stopping you from giving them different jobs, if you want. Also, arriving with better skills should cause them to have better stats aswell, which is aways a plus.

[smjjames]

Has anyone else noticed that Doomshifter's avatar's hair... has thumbs?

Those are bunny ears, anime style.

[GRead]

Has anyone else noticed that Doomshifter's avatar's hair... has thumbs?

That's not hair...
Funny you notice this and not the massive eye on her shoulder.

On Topic: I have to agree with changing migrants to have better skills. It's kind of strange that a single 'no adjective' skill is the best you'll see in a migrant, something your dwarfs can achieve by working half a season. Is employment really so scarce in the outside world that no one is better than that? No wonder so many of them come...

Of course, you could argue that the dwarfs who migrate do so because they are young and seeking their fortunes abroad, or they are down on their luck beggars where they came from. Though some migrants could be fleeing conflict, and in that case they may very well be more skilled.

I'm sure we'll see this come into play once migrants are drawn from real populations and migrate for a reason other than 'my fort is making allot of spiffy stuff, and I'm not at the population cap yet.'

[Katawa]

Has anyone else noticed that Doomshifter's avatar's hair... has thumbs?

Those are bunny ears, anime style.

No he means the breast groping hair.

[darkflagrance]

Has anyone else noticed that Doomshifter's avatar's hair... has thumbs?

Those are bunny ears, anime style.

No he means the breast groping hair.

I think somewhere else, someone who researched her avatar said it was really a slime girl that had taken on a very provocative form, so the hands, hair, and breasts are actually one continuous unit of cytoplasm.

[smjjames]

Um, whatever.

I wonder when Toady will update the devlog today.

Also, only 20 pages to go!