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[Askot Bokbondeler]

that would be pretty boring
adding better stuff isn't necessarilly good, instead i'd rather see the lesser metals being made more usefull, for example, making bronze harder than iron, but heavier and more expensive, don't know how accurate that would be

[Wavecutter]

I disagree. If such an alloy could be made and it's properties mimicked, don't you think that the properties of metal would need better definition? Our ideas aren't exclusive. They work well together.

[dreiche2]

So on the assumption that warhammers are going to be rather realistically sized in the next version, does that mean they will no longer knock back enemies?

[Mel_Vixen]

Nah we just combine the rules of physics with the rules of awesome. So on impact the gravity around the target gets deactivated and the entire momentum of the hammer gets moved to the poor guy that got hit.

[Lancensis]

What happened about Dwarves only being able to gain double their starting attributes through training? I doubt they're going to be hurling Dragons about, that way

[Manae]

If you're on the moon, the aforementioned 25-pound mallet could be swung 1-handed. Sure, it'd be rather heavy to handle, but without its weight, it'd be a lot easier to wield.

You could hold it one-handed, but you'd swing it awful slowly.  Anyway, it's gravity that assists most uses of a hammer (you hit down), and without it you have to supply that force yourself.  Similarly since the momentum of an upswing isn't as arrested, you'd probably wrench yourself around if you didn't connect.  Mass is the same everywhere, you don't get any more power in space than you do on earth.  Push against a 300-ton space station and it still isn't going anywhere.

I have to disagree about gravity assisting much. Yes, it will on a vertical down swing, but the overall contribution is negligible compared to the energy the wielder is putting into it. The 25lb mallet would benefit a bit more from gravity, but simply for the reason that it would be harder for the wielder to add momentum. However, it's for just that reason that I suspect that particular weapon was kept in constant motion like you would with a two-handed battle axe. Spinning them in pattern around yourself not only help 'keep them up to speed' so-to-speak by maintaining momentum in the weapons, but also allows for both an active defense and more unpredictable attacks.

[Sean Mirrsen]

I just imagined warhammer-chucks...

[Morrigi]

Ninjadorfs! 

[Mel_Vixen]

And samurai trolls.

[jamoecw]

that would be pretty boring
adding better stuff isn't necessarilly good, instead i'd rather see the lesser metals being made more usefull, for example, making bronze harder than iron, but heavier and more expensive, don't know how accurate that would be

well eventually i'd imagine arbitrary values won't be assigned to things, so if everybody and their grandmother had bronze, then it would be cheaper, unless there was essentially the same saturation of iron (since iron requires less work in DF).

[CobaltKobold]

the "arbitrarily better" should be out, aside from adamantine, since mats are getting their real properties.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Even adamantine isn't arbitrarily better. It's just ungodly strong and very lightweight. Hammers and even axes made with the stuff won't be too good, hammers moreso than axes. Ironic, since these are the two weapons dwarves would most likely wield. Armor and pointy implements on the other hand, would only benefit.

[CobaltKobold]

Dunno. Lighter armor means it won't absorb so much of the energy, e'en if it is easier to move in.

[Mel_Vixen]

Well from my POV a dwarf a dwarf goes best with a spear or other long weapons to counter the rangeadvantage of humans. Oh And adamntine would be neat for building "Huge" constructions if we get someday Physics for Buildings.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Adamantine will then eventually be best for mechanisms. Nothing else will be able to withstand the amount of torque imposed onto the gears and axles by the powerhouse running your gattling bridgeapult turret.