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[n2]

Something like a gate with guards: requires guards to operate; only lets certain dwarves pass (as in workshop profile); with no guards the gate's closed.
Most useful to only let your woodcutters and haulers outdoors, but I can think of other applications too.

thought of it just now when a whole bunch of mah dwarves wanted to take a break OUTSIDE even tho there were goblins all over the place.

Also, dwarves "run away" AI sucks. They LOVE to corner themselves.

Edit: I guess I named it poorly, I'm not all that good at engrish. Searched the forum but in similarly named topics there are actually completely different suggestions.

[Tormy]

Good idea, I like it. This would solve the "stupid dwarf goes outside...player: ARGHHH noes!" problem. 

[Mikademus]

I think this, or suggestions to this effect, has been brought forward a number of times before. Still it is a good notion and at least a temporary solution to the sucky AI for military dwarves.

However, a better solution for siege situations is to be able to designate "military" and "safe" zones.

[n2]

I think this, or suggestions to this effect, has been brought forward a number of times before.

Sorry I just can't imagine how to name it properly >_< (Also, edit in the original post.)

However, a better solution for siege situations is to be able to designate "military" and "safe" zones.

That's true.

However, I can name a few things in favor of my suggestion:
1) it may be possible to use it for other means (only let certain dwarves go to some places inside the fortress), also it would be nice if it had a feature of filtering out animals (cats should stay inside!  )
2) limiting dwarf access to some areas by "psionic waves" (safe/unsafe areas) while effective, is not very realistic; using dwarfpower to do the same is more realistic, and you aren't getting more control over your dwarves for free.
3) it makes use of otherwise not very useful guards. Of course, by guards I mean fortress guards we have now.

[Granite26]

Something like a gate with guards: requires guards to operate; only lets certain dwarves pass (as in workshop profile); with no guards the gate's closed.
Most useful to only let your woodcutters and haulers outdoors, but I can think of other applications too.

I think Keys is what you're looking for, although this is a unique implementation so far as I know

[Silverionmox]

It's the same as other zones, they're an agreement between the dwarves to do certain things in a certain area. But I like your suggestion as well, it will be useful for throne rooms and treasuries among other things. It shouldn't be another building though, just added functionality to any door/hatch/stair or whatever.

[Hoborobo234]

This would be a good idea, especially with gates. Seems its so hard to make a multi-tile door thing. A guard posted at a gate, could inpect anyone going in or out, not blocking the path but slowing the dwarves down, as if they had to go through a check before they could go outside, like that guy in Lord of the Rings.

[Warlord255]

This would be a great way to add multi-tile gates, as well as occupy the Fortress Guard. I could see it adding room value or as a mandate requirement, also, so that having guards to royal areas would be both flavorful and beneficial.

[Footkerchief]

It's a cool idea, but it would require some serious changes to pathing -- the game would have to handle profession-specific pathing, and what happens if the guard decides to leave while somebody's on the way?

[texmith]

Nice idea. Using a building to control access is much nicer than an abstract 'zone' system IMO. Using guards to police it would be ideal.

It's a cool idea, but it would require some serious changes to pathing -- the game would have to handle profession-specific pathing,

This doesn't seem insurmountable. Any system that restricted access for certain dwarves to certain areas would need equivalent pathing changes. Controlling transfer through access points could be further optimised compared to restrictive zones that might cover huge areas.

and what happens if the guard decides to leave while somebody's on the way?

The same thing that happens when a wall is built in a dwarf's way. There are many existing cases where a dwarf's path can become blocked / unblocked dynamically.

[Warlord255]

It's a cool idea, but it would require some serious changes to pathing -- the game would have to handle profession-specific pathing, and what happens if the guard decides to leave while somebody's on the way?

Profession-specific pathing (or, more geneally, dwarf-specific pathing in the event of keyed doors) is worth worrying about; however, if it works, it'll work.

[Yaddy1]

They need surface passes to go outside. You could designate who has passes.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Actually I think the zone implementation is more logic, guards don't NEED anything to just pace back and forth and yell 'halt who goes there!' to everyone and then inspect them (or fight them).  The zone could be called an inspection zone perhaps, it designates an area in which the guards will patrol (by automatic perimeter walking) and all your dwarfs will stop upon entering the zone for an inspection by the guard who will go to quickly inspect everyone entering as they enter the zone.  Hostiles will of course not stop and be immediately attacked by the guards.  The zone would hold the desired settings for who can pass.  When their are no guards present naturally everyone passes through without being checked.

An actually building for guards which holds as a kind of 'mini fort' holding a bed and a small supply of food, water and ammo has been suggested before and I whole heartedly approve.  Guards and other military would use the guard post to sleep and eat in such that they can stay near a specific point without wandering all over the fort to eat and sleep.  The post might also allow a sleeping dwarf to wake up when something happens nearby or for an automated 'tag team' rotation of two dwarfs one of which will always guard the desired objective which might be a patrol path, a lookout position or the zone based inspection area.  Keeping logistical support building separate from the desired activity zones makes them flexible and simplifies the system greatly while allowing the player to link the work zone, rest zone and squad into his own structure.

[Dakk]

I like it, simply because it would actually give a purpose to the fortress/royal guard, it doesn't have to be a building though. You could simply asign a guard to a door, or give orders to individual guards, such as station guard and guard this area (khum to expand/contract) and like everyone in the thread sugested, allowing only certain dwarves to pass.
You could allow certain dwarves to pass by profession, like Allow only: Blacksmith, Woodcutter, Peasant, Noble, etc. or individually, like Allow only: Urist Mcgreedymayor.

[n2]

I like the idea of multi-tiled gates. My main passages are always wider than 2 tiles.

Actually I think the zone implementation is more logic, guards don't NEED anything to just pace back and forth and yell 'halt who goes there!' to everyone and then inspect them (or fight them).  The zone could be called an inspection zone perhaps, it designates an area in which the guards will patrol (by automatic perimeter walking) and all your dwarfs will stop upon entering the zone for an inspection by the guard who will go to quickly inspect everyone entering as they enter the zone.  Hostiles will of course not stop and be immediately attacked by the guards.  The zone would hold the desired settings for who can pass.

OK so far.

When their are no guards present naturally everyone passes through without being checked.

An this totally negates all it's benefits. What if a dwarf sneaks out when a guard is not around, but then a guard won't let him go back, right? The reason why I suggest a gate, because it's rational to make it closed when undwarved.
 
What do u want to check in dwarves? It's not like there are drugs or contraband in teh game. There is not a single thing to "check" about them. Only let them pass, or not. For that reason, if I'm not mistaken, castles always had gates, not some kind of zones. And IRL if there's a place with restricted access, like subway, or a cinema, or your work or study place, everywhere, u always get your pass checked at some kind of gate (not necessary a giant door). And they are usually meant so that you can't pass when no one's looking. (except for temporary or unimportant ones)

An actually building for guards which holds as a kind of 'mini fort' holding a bed and a small supply of food, water and ammo has been suggested before and I whole heartedly approve.  Bla-bla-bla.

You can already build beds and food stockpiles and ammo stockpiles. Why would you want a building with all of these, i.e. with nothing you can't do already?
Stockpiles getting priorities or special fill orders (if empty fill it NAO or smth like that) will probably be better, because of better application. No, it would actually be the best thing ever.