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[TheDarkStar]

It's still possible to have unfortunate neqoxec run-ins - this happened when I got banished to the Abyss and took a while to get out. (I ended up having to clear Snake:4 brainless and suffering from other assortments of bad status effects intermittently)

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I've also gotten fun sets of mutations from them (in other words, every single negative mutation unless I had the mutually exclusive positive mutation for it) and from going through Slime.

[beorn080]

For replacing hell effects, perhaps, waves of clouds? There are already special features that feature controlled clouds. So, for example, Gehanna would randomly fire off a single,cloud of fire, which would expand to a random size up to maybe a firestorm sized blast before fading. Perhaps an actual firestorm cloud to make it interesting, useful, but potentially deadly as well.

[ZeroGravitas]

Latest win, an OgSu with probably the lowest Summoning skill on any winning Summoner.

Nah, a MiSu starts with 2.9 

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

Mi do not have class. They do not need class. All they have is an "initial difficulty/reliance on RNG" setting. In the end, all Mi are alike, besides the whims of the RNG. They all play as Fi/Gl/Be.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

So what are some good tips for winning a wizard? (What's the easiest char, which god is better, etc.)

Edit: Armokdamnit, I didn't notice the doublepost. Sorry.

[TheDarkStar]

I've done OK as a Gargoyle Earth Elementalist^Vehumet that branches into fire magic. It can be a bit hard to start, but I've gotten all the way through Dungeon/Lair/Shoals/Spider/Orc/Vault:1-4 and died in the Depths.

Edit: Why it's a decent character:
-Vehumet gives nice spells + some magic regen
-Gargoyles have low HP, but all the resistances (natural poison immunity, natural rN+ eventually, natural AC bonus), and eventually learn to fly
-The only resistance that applies to most Earth magic is AC.

You have to be very careful at the beginning, though - always try to wait for your magic to regenerate before exploring. If you see lots of enemies, try to lure a few away if possible. If not, run to some stairs (stairdancing if you can handle getting hit in melee by a few of them) to avoid getting overwhelmed (if you see orc priests/wizards or one of your ghosts too early, just run and try to skip the floor for now). Also, enchanted weapons are far better than unenchanted ones because they get accuracy and damage bonuses that are very noticeable at 0 skill.

[EnigmaticHat]

So what are some good tips for winning a wizard? (What's the easiest char, which god is better, etc.)

Edit: Armokdamnit, I didn't notice the doublepost. Sorry.

Dark elf conjurer of Vehumet, focusing on getting your spell power as high as possible, is a fairly simple way to play a mage.  You'll get annihilated sometimes because of your low survivability but its usually avoidable and it'll be a learning experience.

[Robsoie]

It's been a long time i didn't had a Crawl character running, several version, so i downloiad the latest trunk and very quickly my Human Conjurer noticed a solutions the devs have been using to answer to people that were claiming that early dungeon was too boring : dart slugs.

Man, on low HP and no real protection new characters, they're rather dangerous, as i found them (luck or bad luck ?) to be very much more common on my first floor exploration than those very rare kobolds+wandofLV1playerinstakill or kobolds+blowgunofLV1playerfatalpoisoning i sometime encountered in past versions

I think they're good to teach the player good gameplay tips in term of avoiding approaching enemy in the open, or learning on how running away is a good tactic in Crawl.

[Robsoie]

On my current character with a recent trunk version, i just picked up an "amulet of harm" , that's something i never saw on the older versions i played, apparently it is increasing the damage you're dealing, with the nasty side effect of having damage dealt to you increased too.

But how significant both side of the damage is, does the positive side make it really interesting or completely negligible, and does the negative side make it an actual death trap or nothing to worry about ?

[TheDarkStar]

On my current character with a recent trunk version, i just picked up an "amulet of harm" , that's something i never saw on the older versions i played, apparently it is increasing the damage you're dealing, with the nasty side effect of having damage dealt to you increased too.

But how significant both side of the damage is, does the positive side make it really interesting or completely negligible, and does the negative side make it an actual death trap or nothing to worry about ?

It depends on what kind of character you have. It's bad for melee characters because it essentially increases the volatility of fights you're in - you have fewer chances to use healing/buffing potions. On the other hand, it's good for ranged/magic characters because you can deal more damage before you are in melee range while saving on arrows/magic.

[Robsoie]

Thanks, i didn't thought it would work on spellcasters too, interesting to know.
I'll keep using my amulet of guardian then, as i'm on a berseker character this time; at least it's going to be some additional layer of help in melee once i'll get my evocation skill higher.

[TheDarkStar]

Thanks, i didn't thought it would work on spellcasters too, interesting to know.
I'll keep using my amulet of guardian then, as i'm on a berseker character this time; at least it's going to be some additional layer of help in melee once i'll get my evocation skill higher.

Yeah, guardian spirit will help you a lot more with that character.

(also, the wiki article for Amulets of Harm notes that torment damage is also increased, so there are some branches that no character would want to wear one in)

[TheDarkStar]

I decided to try out a Merfolk Skald as a change of pace from a GrEE. As it turns out, it plays really differently. Instead of being magic + melee for things I'm too lazy to zap, it's essentially a melee character with lots of buffs + eventually a large damage increase/damage sink from Spectral Weapon. I had a good run with one (it made it to the Lair) but I'm still working on the skill distribution. Right now, I'm training Polearms/Charms/Emphasis on spellcasting (and allowing training on other spell schools to begin naturally). Next time I get that far, I intend to try disabling all spell schools to focus on Polearms/Fighting when the spells I have are at a 1% fail rate and I have no new books to memorize from.

Is this a good strategy? Also, is Oka a good god to pick?

[Arcvasti]

On my current character with a recent trunk version, i just picked up an "amulet of harm" , that's something i never saw on the older versions i played, apparently it is increasing the damage you're dealing, with the nasty side effect of having damage dealt to you increased too.

But how significant both side of the damage is, does the positive side make it really interesting or completely negligible, and does the negative side make it an actual death trap or nothing to worry about ?

It depends on what kind of character you have. It's bad for melee characters because it essentially increases the volatility of fights you're in - you have fewer chances to use healing/buffing potions. On the other hand, it's good for ranged/magic characters because you can deal more damage before you are in melee range while saving on arrows/magic.

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No. Mages are usually fragile already[Few high hp races with good magic apts + lighter armour]. Taking more damage voluntarily is incredibly dumb. Even if you could kill any creature in two hits[Which is more then Harm lets you do against the creatures that matter], you're still going down against larger crowds with any ranged attacks at all. By the time you can wreck those crowds with level 9 spells, Torment/Damnation make Harm outright suicide. You might be able to argue that Harm isn't actually a negative influence in the early Dungeon or MAYBE Lair, but I remain highly skeptical. ANY other amulet is better then Harm. Besides MAYBE Dismissal, which gives you the disadvantage of a Distortion weapon without giving you the benefit of Distortion damage.

[Sarrak]

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You climb downwards.
 You hear the hiss of flowing sand.
 There is an entrance to an ossuary on this level. Hurry and find it before the
 portal is buried!
 You hear the roar of battle.
 There is an entrance to a bailey on this level. Hurry and find it before the
 portal closes forever!
Didn't know that was possible! Weird, I've been playing since pre-SS days and this is the first time I've ever seen two timed portals generated on one level.

I think I saw three once (Bazaar and two others). Died trying to complete all three in time, though.

It is possible to complete two, but it depends heavily on layout and type of portal. Labyrinth, Bailey, WizLabs and some Ice Cave variants take the longest, second portal normally closes just as you reach the exit.