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[quinnr]

Catching up on the two latest episodes of Charlotte. This show...I'm not sure they could fit many more clichés in here if they wanted to. Not that it's bad, just something I noticed.

Spoiler: Charlotte ep. 9 + 10 (click to show/hide)

The last few episodes have been...really different from the rest of the show. They've turned everything around, but I'm not sure how they're going to pull it all together by the end, assuming there's only going to be like...3 or so episodes after this. Of course they couldn't resist having a time-jumper and an ability-stealer, though...those are just a given when you throw a show together of people with supernatural abilities.

EDIT from 10: Geez, that team-leap seems super rash. I mean, I know that he'd do literally anything to bring back his deceased sister, but the consequences from this can't all be good. I mean, just off the top of my head, the recovery of Nao's brother happened after the death of his sister, so that's pretty much going to be undone, too...

EDIT2: NO NO NO NO NON NO NO NO DO NOT TAKE YOUR SISTER'S ONLY DEFENSE THAT ACTIVATES ONLY IN LIFE OR DEATH SITUATIONS THAT IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.

[Orange Wizard]

The writing in Charlotte is really weird. Although I'm just wondering about the reasoning behind the name.

[Leafsnail]

Am I the only one who finds Visual Novels with sequels weird?

Do you mean ones with multiple endings?

[Reelya]

That reminds me of Deus Ex: Invisible War, where they're deliberately vague about which ending of Deus Ex 1 was chosen. It did kind of feel weird, too, because they basically had to leave the events of Deus Ex 1 shrouded in legend and rumours to make it work. So you have people for most of the game going "so I guess this mighta happened, or maybe that" which was weird for a sequel where you really want the story to pick up where it ended. So that sort of prevented it being a true sequel or an independent game in it's own right. It's not really a bad game, just not a good sequel to Deus Ex.

It really depends on the Visual Novel / game i guess. Some have multiple endings but you really know the "true route" when you find it (e.g. Stein's Gate), so those can have a sequel without it feeling weird.

[Orange Wizard]

Or make a sequel for each individual ending and blow your production costs into the stratosphere.

[KingofstarrySkies]

...
didn't invisible war SUCK?
Thankfully Mankind Divided will change based on your ending choice.

[Reelya]

Invisible War was ok as a game, it just wasn't as good as the first one. It didn't suck compared to average, non-amazing games. If it was just "Invisible War" as a new setting without the Deus Ex name it would have been much better received.

What in specific sucks about it? That there weren't as many upgrade options etc for your guns, and weapons no longer had alternate fire modes/alternate ammo, and the lockpicking system was simplified. Game mechanics things that only make sense to complain about if you were expecting the detailed inventory and alternate ammo weapon system from the first game. We don't say other stealth shooters suck because they don't have the same alternate ammo system as the first Deus Ex, so it makes little sense to claim Deus Ex: Invisible War sucks in an objective sense on it's own merits for lacking such a system, or any other game mechanic that's unique to the first game. Also, in the first game quite a bit of time is spent juggling junk in your inventory, and this is heavily reduced in the second game, so it's less heavy on inventory-tetris and micro-management.

[Orange Wizard]

It sucked in the same way Spore sucked, or Starbound sucked. They're fine as games but didn't live up to expectations.

[EnigmaticHat]

That reminds me of Deus Ex: Invisible War, where they're deliberately vague about which ending of Deus Ex 1 was chosen. It did kind of feel weird, too, because they basically had to leave the events of Deus Ex 1 shrouded in legend and rumours to make it work. So you have people for most of the game going "so I guess this mighta happened, or maybe that" which was weird for a sequel where you really want the story to pick up where it ended. So that sort of prevented it being a true sequel or an independent game in it's own right. It's not really a bad game, just not a good sequel to Deus Ex.

It really depends on the Visual Novel / game i guess. Some have multiple endings but you really know the "true route" when you find it (e.g. Stein's Gate), so those can have a sequel without it feeling weird.

I'm wondering if the new games will stay in prequel land forever or someone will finally take the axe to Invisible War and declare it not canon.

didn't invisible war SUCK?

It... functioned as a game.  If you go in knowing how much people hate it, you might be surprised into thinking its a good game because some parts of it are competent.  But if you play Dues Ex first, you'll understand why people hate it.  It took a fairly detailed near-future world based on conspiracy theories, and replaced it with an utterly generic sci-fi setting.  The gameplay was also pretty bland, although to its credit while it was a boring shooter the shooting mechanics of the original Dues Ex were too original for their own good.

[Reelya]

Man, I just started the first episode of Symphogear season 3, that first 5 minutes reminds me of why I love this show, stupid as it is. If you're going to make a dumb show, make it as dumb as possible and ramp the Rule of Cool up to 11, that's how it's done.

[Boksi]

Man, I just started the first episode of Symphogear season 3, that first 5 minutes reminds me of why I love this show, stupid as it is. If you're going to make a dumb show, make it as dumb as possible and ramp the Rule of Cool up to 11, that's how it's done.

"K2 is now only the third highest mountain in the world"?

[Calidovi]

It sucked in the same way Spore sucked, or Starbound sucked. They're fine as games but didn't live up to expectations.

d-dont talk to me about starbound

i had such high hopes

and it all came down


Anyway, should I watch Himouto! Umaru-Chan or Jojo's Bizarre Adventure First?


inb4 awaken my masters

[JoshuaFH]

I don't know what the other one is, but you can't go wrong with Jojo.

[Reelya]

I haven't started it yet, but Himouto is definitely the complete opposite genre to JoJo so they can't really be compared. Depends whether you want 50 episodes of epic battles or 12 episodes of cute comedy. I think the premise could be interesting. At least it's not another thing about a club with 4 girls in it, or a harem. (those don't mean a show is bad by definition but they do tend to imply that the writer didn't try very hard for a setting or premise).

But, I'd say start with JoJo too. The first arc of JoJo goes for 9 episodes, then there's a time-skip. so if you want, you can watch JoJo eps 1-9, then switch to another show like Himouto for a change of pace, then back to the second arc of JoJo (eps 10~25)

[Calidovi]

I haven't started it yet, but Himouto is definitely the complete opposite genre to JoJo so they can't really be compared. Depends whether you want 50 episodes of epic battles or 12 episodes of cute comedy. I think the premise could be interesting. At least it's not another thing about a club with 4 girls in it, or a harem. (those don't mean a show is bad by definition but they do tend to imply that the writer didn't try very hard for a setting or premise).

But, I'd say start with JoJo too. The first arc of JoJo goes for 9 episodes, then there's a time-skip. so if you want, you can watch JoJo eps 1-9, then switch to another show like Himouto for a change of pace, then back to the second arc of JoJo (eps 10~25)

I'm still defining my interests, but I have an inherent taste with Himouto. However, JoJo has a kind of legacy for action, which is something I want to see if I like.

Your plan sounds good, though. I'll work on that.