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Rhenaya

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Juice!
« on: November 30, 2008, 03:33:11 am »

There should be an option to make juice out of plants to. its the same proess as brewing but only at the kitchen.

juice will differ from booze in some things:
wounded/resting/improsned dwarfs will drink it
non acohol depended civs need it like the dwarfs their booze (if you make another civ controllable)

and a new effect: drunk
dwarfs will get "drunk" from juice, other civs from booze (the [ALCOHOL_DEPENDED] tag is the one in question here)
resulting in a happy thought, but they will get slower and inaccurate (meaning slower walking, less machine gun marksman, and less quality work at the workshops)

clean water has no side effect, its just for thirsty people.
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 04:17:46 am »

Water was pretty dangerous back then, drinking only alcoholic beverages was fairly common
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2008, 04:28:00 am »

"clean water" has no side effects... dirty (and dangerous carp tastey) water still make unhappy thoughts
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2008, 05:26:28 am »

Juice gets them sober, or pumped up in a hang over. -'.-
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2008, 09:46:33 am »

Water was pretty dangerous back then, drinking only alcoholic beverages was fairly common

What? Talk about generalizing... :P
..as for the suggestion, I like it, and it makes sense. We should be able to make juice out of some plants/fruits.
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2008, 01:33:38 pm »

Juice gets them sober, or pumped up in a hang over. -'.-

thats why i say dwarfs get "drunk" from it, but need brews to work fine :p
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2008, 05:03:19 pm »

If non alcoholic juice make a dwarf drunk (aka alcohol withdrawal) then why wouldn't water have the same draw back (regardless of if it is clean or dirty)?
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2008, 05:13:17 pm »

If non alcoholic juice make a dwarf drunk (aka alcohol withdrawal) then why wouldn't water have the same draw back (regardless of if it is clean or dirty)?
Simple.  Dwarves get "drunk" off of the sugar.  They go into a sugar rush and then crash because they're not used to it.  This doesn't happen when they drink alcohol because that has a lower sugar content.
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 05:17:35 pm »

If putting yeast in fruit juice turns the sugar in the juice to alcohol, and nonalcoholic juice gets dwarves drunk, would that mean that they get drunk from the sugar? If so, and by "drunk" you mean that they are unfocused and can't concentrate, then we can conclude that all dwarves have ADHD due to their disorienting reaction to sugar! Science!

Also if they react badly to sugar, regardless of any ADHD, that would mean that dwarven sugar and syrup would act as regular booze to dwarves.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2008, 05:22:01 pm by Athisus »
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2008, 05:40:21 pm »

Also just an idea....perhaps not all dwarves should be alcohol dependants. In this case, drinking a good quality juice should give them a moral boost, and those dwarves should mainly look for juices if they are thirsty. Now another possibility: What if some races would prefer to drink fruit extracts -> juices? [This sounds like a good "modding material" even.  :)]
« Last Edit: November 30, 2008, 05:42:12 pm by Tormy »
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2008, 07:03:19 pm »

If putting yeast in fruit juice turns the sugar in the juice to alcohol, and nonalcoholic juice gets dwarves drunk, would that mean that they get drunk from the sugar? If so, and by "drunk" you mean that they are unfocused and can't concentrate, then we can conclude that all dwarves have ADHD due to their disorienting reaction to sugar! Science!

Also if they react badly to sugar, regardless of any ADHD, that would mean that dwarven sugar and syrup would act as regular booze to dwarves.
This sounds like a unique and interesting trait that would make the dwarves seem very different from the standard fantasy fare. Which may or may not be desireable.
I fully endorse it, let's try it at once!
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2008, 08:55:02 pm »

I fully endorse it, let's try it at once!
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2008, 08:56:41 pm »

Juice gets them sober, or pumped up in a hang over. -'.-

thats why i say dwarfs get "drunk" from it, but need brews to work fine :p
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2008, 06:48:08 pm »

I fully endorse it, let's try it at once!
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Re: Juice!
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2008, 08:04:57 pm »

Also just an idea....perhaps not all dwarves should be alcohol dependants. In this case, drinking a good quality juice should give them a moral boost, and those dwarves should mainly look for juices if they are thirsty. Now another possibility: What if some races would prefer to drink fruit extracts -> juices? [This sounds like a good "modding material" even.  :)]

In that thread "What is a dwarf" (or something) it was suggested that dwarves have different blood chemistry than f.i. humans and alcohol is an essential nutrient (or whatever) for them.
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