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[Fishersalwaysdie]

Toady also stated that it is very likely that the templates will change untill the release so its a bit of wasted time to make Hypthtical mods now if the Templatecode changes anyway to 50%.

Hypothetical mods are hypothetical.

[Rockphed]

Question for Toady: If I make a creature with steel skin and kill it, then make some high boots out of its leather, will they be just as good as regular steel high boots?

If you make a creature with steel skin, its skin will probably go to the smelter instead of the tanners workshop when you butcher it (assuming you can kill it)

According to Toady(a few days back) steel skin is still a skin, so it goes to tanners then leather workers.  The example he was using was actually jewel skin.

[Karlito]

I think he also said that if you desired, you could order it to be melted.

[Random832]

Why would it do that? It would have the properties of steel, but it would still be leather. The game doesn't allocate which materials should be sent to where based on its inherent properties, only by the tags you allocate it by. Thus, if you tagged the steel-skin material in the raws to be skin, it would be tanned in a tanner's workshop.

You didn't say "made of 'steel-skin material'", you said made of steel.

[umiman]

Unless you think me and penguinofhonor is the same person.... my answer to your statement is: ???

[Neonivek]

Unless you think me and penguinofhonor is the same person.... my answer to your statement is: ???

Also I umiman who cannot tell a lie state that Neonivek is the greatest person I ever known.

You are? somehow I guess it was obvious.

Also thanks for the compliment

[Mephansteras]

Latest dev notes highlight: a dwarf with boiling gold blood. I really can't wait to see how THAT turns out!

[Willfor]

Note to Toady: Though I know you are used to snow, please remember to not use your back too much while shoveling the snow. It can lead to painful conditions if done improperly. And while it might help you understand how to apply long term stress injuries to DF, we don't need you to model them with first hand accuracy.

[Neonivek]

I think Toady putting Repetative Stress Injuries into Dwarf Fortress may be a above and beyond what I think he should be doing.

[Xgamer4]

Huh, well, at least now I know where the massive snowstorm that hit Idaho came from.

[Neonivek]

Huh, well, at least now I know where the massive snowstorm that hit Idaho came from.

From my icy black hole of a heart?

[Neoskel]

Happy Birthday Toady's mom! 

[Techhead]

I have a question that's been bothering me for a while.

Will chain mail use the same strength value that plate mail does?
i.e. Shear strength for piercing and slashing, impact strength for blunt.

I imagine that the rings that make up a mail sheet would behave differently than a steel plate. Piercing attacks on mail would likely exert tensile strain as it pries the rings open. A slashing attack would likely be converted into an impact. Blunt attacks probably wouldn't damage the mail at all, but it wouldn't absorb much of the attack, either.

[Neonivek]

I have a question that's been bothering me for a while.

Will chain mail use the same strength value that plate mail does?
i.e. Shear strength for piercing and slashing, impact strength for blunt.

I imagine that the rings that make up a mail sheet would behave differently than a steel plate. Piercing attacks on mail would likely exert tensile strain as it pries the rings open. A slashing attack would likely be converted into an impact. Blunt attacks probably wouldn't damage the mail at all, but it wouldn't absorb much of the attack, either.

Well Blunt and Peircing effect on Chainmail is a bit odd in the sense that Chainmail can deal with both of them (Not as effectively as Platemail... but what can?).

A Chainshirt however (which is effectively one layer of chain) does however have those weaknesses you described perfectly.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Chainmail isn't rigid, and so isn't good at stopping the sheer force of the blow. It lowers pierce damage somewhat, and converts a slash to a blunt hit if it manages to hold together, but it's hardly good for stopping a heavy axe or hammer hit, as that will easily crush your bones even if the mail itself is not harmed. I don't know about the usual ways of wearing or constructing chainmail, but I usually see it as a sort of a robe made of tiny metal rings.

I suspect the armor itself will govern these things. As will eventually be the case with other items. For example, when hitting someone with a "normal" weapon like a sword, the material's resistance to compression will define whether or not the weapon gets damaged, while a scythe or sickle will use tensile strength for those purposes because the manner of attack is different.