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Author Topic: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the pit?  (Read 1439 times)

Neoskel

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How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the pit?
« on: July 17, 2008, 05:34:13 am »
It's really annoying. I dug a moat for a drawbridge, and want to get rid of the stairs. So i channeled the down staircase, but the idiotic dwarf goes DOWN the staircase and digs from there. Is there some way to counter this stupid behavior?
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the p
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 06:10:32 am »
why did you dig stairs in a moat anyways? :-\
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the p
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 06:13:18 am »
So i could get the stone/gems out of it first.
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the pit?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 06:14:44 am »
Screw the dwarf and flood the moat, that is the ture DF way of playing.
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the pit?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 06:21:17 am »
What happens if you build a constructed stair, then rig up a dungeon collapse over it?

Or, if you only care about making the pit unexitable, build a stair in the middle and temporarily make a bridge.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2008, 06:23:27 am by kaypy »
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the p
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 06:22:01 am »
Quote from: RebelZhouYuWu on July 17, 2008, 06:14:44 am
Screw the dwarf and flood the moat, that is the ture DF way of playing.

Problem is, it's just a pit. No water to put in it (yet), and i'd rather keep all my dwarves alive, at least until i get some expendable migrants.
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the pit?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 07:00:31 am »
Normally I dig out a platform and channel the stairways from the side, when I'm building a well. But in your case, I'd say making a service entrance tunnel in the side, and then walling said side off would work best for you, at least until you could use said tunnel to fill the moat... WITH DOOM.
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the p
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 07:20:11 am »
Quote from: Haven on July 17, 2008, 07:00:31 am
Normally I dig out a platform and channel the stairways from the side, when I'm building a well. But in your case, I'd say making a service entrance tunnel in the side, and then walling said side off would work best for you, at least until you could use said tunnel to fill the moat... WITH DOOM.

Ok, this idea works for me, i'll just get rid of the stairs (ramps now actually) when i'm ready to pump the aquifer in.

Excuse me, a swarm of bats just dispersed in front of my fortress, i want to see how many i can bag. Too bad they ain't edible.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2008, 07:22:16 am by Neoskel »
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the p
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 07:29:51 am »
They are if your trappers manage to snag a few. :D

Mmm, Ozzie meals.
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the p
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 07:33:18 am »
Quote from: Cajoes on July 17, 2008, 07:29:51 am
They are if your trappers manage to snag a few. :D

Mmm, Ozzie meals.

They don't have [VERMIN_EATER] in their raw file. My guys have been happily munching on two-egged-rhino-lizards and fluffy wamblers.

Also, something wierd happened. A kobold showed up while the merchants were still around. The merchant guards chased it off the map, but two of the merchants and their muskoxen crawled away to my internal trade depot (i was going to deconstruct the outside one) and now they won't leave. And i mean crawl, they're all prone on the ground, even the muskoxen. I'm gonna try deconning the inside depot.

Edit: Darn, didn't work. But deconning both did. Silly traders. They also left a bunch of stuff behind  :D.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2008, 07:43:09 am by Neoskel »
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the p
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 07:50:28 am »
Having two depots messes up merchants. Last time I did that I ended up with merchants squatting in my basement for the rest of the game :P
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the p
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2008, 10:35:52 am »
Recess the stairs into the moat wall, and build a floor over them?
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the p
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 10:49:14 am »
Quote from: Hackenslacker on July 17, 2008, 10:35:52 am
Recess the stairs into the moat wall, and build a floor over them?
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That looks pretty good, just hope the builder doesn't have the bright idea of building the floor from the bottom staircase...
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the p
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2008, 11:08:31 am »
Quote from: Lalandrathon on July 17, 2008, 07:50:28 am
Having two depots messes up merchants. Last time I did that I ended up with merchants squatting in my basement for the rest of the game :P

Sounds like a perfect time to redirect some magma for heating purposes.
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Re: How do i get rid of stairs going into a pit without a dwarf going INTO the pit?
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2008, 11:22:12 am »
Use a pole and a rope ladder and a big ax ::)

And choose when to cut it....
(when the miner is up or down)

There should be a difference in construction options. A speedy way a rope ladder and or graplinghook. For digging pits and moats. Easy to remove and to construct.

And a permanent way a stair case/ramp for heavy duty use.
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