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[Zemat]

So, how do you manage to build farms and water reservoirs in glacier regions? I know and I have used magma to melt the ice caps but I can't pump any water from it without freezing instantly after leaving the warm areas. Also I know about the ice dropping trick to turn ice into water magically. But it seems rather tedious and wasteful.

Should I forget about it and instead focus on trade to survive?

[Grek]

So, how do you manage to build farms and water reservoirs in glacier regions?

Farms don't require water; just soil. You can plant without watering.

I know and I have used magma to melt the ice caps but I can't pump any water from it without freezing instantly after leaving the warm areas.

Surround the tunnel on all sides with magma.

Also I know about the ice dropping trick to turn ice into water magically. But it seems rather tedious and wasteful.

Try dropping the ice in mass using a bridge.

[Zemat]

Farms don't require water; just soil. You can plant without watering.

Yeah but glacier maps don't have any natural soil type tiles. You need to get the underground tiles muddied to get working soil. And this is just temporal.

Surround the tunnel on all sides with magma.

Try dropping the ice in mass using a bridge.

These two might work. But the next question here is: If I drop the water to underground tiles below the icecap level they will stay as water even if I don't surround them with lava or will they froze eventually?

Related question. Do all water sources eventually evaporate if they are not connected to a infinite source like a river or brook? Because this might spell doom for the fortress eventually as icecaps don't regenerate.

[Andir]

Could you fill up an area underground with water, dig it out to expose it to freeze, cap it, then run magma under the farm room?  (just guessing)

[Zemat]

The way you express that sounds redundant. Why expose liquid to freeze it only to unfreeze it with lava after? On the other hand that could work to make above ground farms.

What just occurred to me and probably will end up doing is this:

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Level two:
#############    # - Ice
#.....#~~~~~#    ~ - Water
#.....X~~~~~#    X - Floodgate
#.....#~~~~~#    . - Ground to be muddied
#############

Level one:
#############    # - Stone
#~~~~~#~~~~~#    ~ - Lava
#~~~~~~~~~~~#
#~~~~~#~~~~~#
#############
I would dig on the icecap above the first stonecap a chamber with a floodgate on one side. And below it I would let lava flow while extending a little bit beyond the upper room to melt the ice there. Then I would open the floodgate from time to time to let water create mud on the heated open chamber above.

[Andir]

That was my original thought, but I kept thinking it would thaw the ice above... in fact:  How do you plan on getting the lava under the appropriate spot without melting the ice around it?   (the lava has to come in from somewhere)  I guess you could build it next to a cliff if they are available in the glacier areas.

[Lazer Bomb]

Glacier map farming:
Step one: find the level that has ice for walls and rock for ground.
Step two: make a dirt road (shortcut:

• (capitalized)

Step three: build farm where you made the dirt road, which is now soil!
Step four:
Step five: Profit!

[Zemat]

That was my original thought, but I kept thinking it would thaw the ice above... in fact:  How do you plan on getting the lava under the appropriate spot without melting the ice around it?   (the lava has to come in from somewhere)  I guess you could build it next to a cliff if they are available in the glacier areas.

Well that's the easy part. I just dig all ice above the tunnel where lava is going to pass.

I didn't know that dirt roads left working soil. That sounds like a bug.

[commondragon]

Dirt/soil is pretty much interchangable, so it's 99.9% not a bug.

Unless your not supposed to make dirt roads on rock >_>