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[Imp]

Ow. Strike one, I suppose.

The thing that kills me is a status effect with a timer, not an ability. Once Downwards Escalator reaches zero, game over, I die.*
It's impossible to remove Downwards Escalator from me.

For the love of God, how do you not see this as "I'll live somehow"

How do you see this as*

Well.  Hi.  I'd like to introduce myself as Imp.  And I've got the impetus, impetuousness, imperialness, impertinence, implacability, impracticality, imprudence, impudence, impassionedness, and impropriety to implore and importune even for implausible and impossible imposed 'improvements'... we'll see if this causes imprecations or even an earlier claim on the impignoration... hope not but I'ma try anyway!

[Krr1ss]

Actually, why are you just writing off their death like it's unpreventable Krr1ss?

Because they said so? ISO them, I believe they said that they are bound to die by N2. Idk how to ISO so can't show myself

ISO me?  I do intend to attempt to delay their death... hah.  I expect to extend their life.  I hope to 'save' it from that death, though this game might be the trickiest ever to do so.

But you've never seen the kinda roles thus situations I ask for in these BYORs because you're new (and disclaimer, my initial role request(s) were rejected this time around, as I have mentioned before the game started).

Spoiler: But I have a history of, well.  Let me speak for myself with this sample: (click to show/hide)

I notice some people are talking about problems, and being broken.  I wonder if they can be helped.

Webadict, with the world's strongest ability, but seems to find it a problem.

Hector13, who suggests we may all be speaking as aristocrats before long and may themself be so afflicted.

Knightwing64 ...?  spooky and mysterious, and not clearly suggesting they want help, but there's a hint in that request to be investigated.  I wonder if there's a problem there, and that's an attempt to ask for help?

EuchreJack, this almost seems like something that requests help, but I am not sure.  Also, in my dreams, Pirates filled the seas with red.  If you need help, you might need it most.  I'm also scared of you.

@Jack:
You wouldn't happen to leave behind a...straw hat if you die, would you, Jack?

Pirates don't leave behind straw hats.

Why did you choose to say this?  What's your thinking?

Jim, whose response to the votes on Jim distinctly didn't use or even threaten to use that ability, and actually gave a reason not to use it - could that ability itself be something of a problem?

I note Egan_BW, The Canadian kitten, Maximum Spin have not yet been spotted, by me at least, in this dream.

But who watches the watchers?  And who would shape my dreams?

Another game:

I also believe it's likely I die tonight because of reasons unrelated to Sonic the Hedgehog. I believe a Town player took a Blowback red sphere when creating their role which has given me a highly negative effect as a result. If one of you guys has a role related to a Scottish novelist then thanks for that, jerk.

Just finished first skim of the thread, I'm not caught up.  This caught my eye,  I have a lot to reread but checking fast: Toons are you willing to say more so folks that could possibly help might be able to tell if they can help, what their price might be, and how?  You don't need to say more than what you choose about what you know.

The first kill or mafiakill action tonight will be redirected to target me. I'm probably going to die.

Willing to say because why?  Does it happen to be an auto, an item, or what?

Are you the Scottish novelist?

Definitely not.  If you're fishing for your novelist, sorry.  I remind, I played other games too checking if I or others could save folks, that's even how I picked who to inspect our last game together, the folks I thought were scum or most likely mislynch the following day.  I checked to see if I could save CM the alien, who I couldn't save.  I just think that way, and I know what I can and can't do.

If you don't want to die and think you will, might want to talk in a way that lets people know more who could and likely would help.  If you just wanna hunt writers, okay, I'm not rolename Scottish novelist or any specific Scottish author.

Any more rolefishing you wanna do while your supposedly timed life ticks away?

It's an item I started the game with thanks to someone else's role. I don't think anybody is going to want to trade with me and I'm not going to lie about what it does.

I could give it to someone tonight I guess as my night action. I think that would save me if that works but would probably get someone else killed.

Great.  I have to ask some questions of the GM, but you maybe already saved your life without killing anyone else.  I'll know more later.  If you want to say even more about it, that might not-hurt-anyone even more than what's already said.  But I need to confirm a bunch of stuff.

Another game... I actually randed into this, but... it's so fitting.:

Imp: [4] Maximum Spin, sofanthiel, Crystalizedmire, Olvierz144
Maximum Spin: [1] Imp,
Oliverz144:
CrystalizedMire:
sofanthiel:
NJW2000:

Much ado about the butler. They argued against, throwing shade. "It's Max, they said." "Trust me, I have no motive for this," they said.

Turns out, sometimes motives don't matter against the mob vote. Even when your on the side of Town.

Noble Butler of the Butlers [Town Cleanser]
[Auto] The Butler Did It: You investigate as Mafia.
[Day] Light Hands, Idle Work: Target a Player. They cannot be killed today, but can be lynched. Any Frames the target is subjected to are cleansed, and status effects removed.

While their affects are looked at, no sign of the missing treasure is found. Simply a lot of cleaning supplies and the money for the auction. Still, no one trusts them and so they are held in custody nonetheless. Talks begin again.

Day 3 has begun. It will end in 24 hours and 5 minutes. 3 to hammer.

No idea what's in the spoiler but I meant to ISO vermillion and I already found relevant posts

[Krr1ss]

Tric - Probably just someone trying for hat victory but they are still town. I'd appreciate it if we all decided to collectively have only one person mug them while another assesses them. Vermillion mugging seems like a good option as their chances of hat victory seem as slim as mine. Imp can assess cuz I town her.

On this, I get assessment, but why Mug? Like, is mugging a free action?
actually reads the hat informational. Apparently so. I am anti-hat apparently. Wouldn't an assessment be enough to tell? It counts night end total.

Mug planning feels like the hats held will inflate quickly, forcing HATLO way way too early.
On an aside, is Toony planning to go for Hat Tyrant? If so vote them out today so we don't have to deal with that.

This, for some reason, made me think that Tric has an ability to Mug twice or something. Basically something that helps Hat victory

If 5+ people who have a hat try to mug the same target then the game ends on the spot.

One of them gets randomly chosen to loot a hat from the other muggers.  That brings that person to 5+ hats.  Game over, that random one wins.

Mugging is risky.

Really? That's how it works? I thought that everyone steals randomly from another so it's a shuffle

[ToonyMan]

Okay, what about the Theater chat? I suspect we'd get one scum in there so who's most suspicious out of Tric/Cat/Vermilion/Agentt?

It's not Tric.
It could be Cat if Magma is right.
It could be Vermilion if Jim is right and me and Imp are wrong.
It could be Agentt if Jim and me are wrong.

Out of this it feels like Cat or Vermilion are the most likely to be scum if the scenario guess is correct.

[Imp]

Really? That's how it works? I thought that everyone steals randomly from another so it's a shuffle

Well, this is from our OP, what do you think?  I think that's the game's scariest caveat, but maybe someone's role hides an even scarier one:

During the Night, any player may use the Mug, Graverob, or Assess abilities. (See below.)

(Free, Night) Mug [target]: You must have hats... You steal a random Hat ability your target possesses at the end of the Night. If you do not currently possess a Hat ability, you instead steal all the Hat abilities your target possesses. Caveat: if multiple players attempt to Mug the same player, then instead a random player among those players steals a random Hat ability from each player attempting to Mug your target.

(Free, Night) Graverob [target (dead)]: Hats belong to the living! Choose a Hat ability possessed by a dead player, and steal it. Caveat: If multiple players attempt to Graverob the same Hat, then a random player among those players receives that Hat.

(Free, Night) Assess [target]: Do they have... hats? Learn how many Hats the target has at the end of this Night, as well as the name of a random Hat among those.

[Krr1ss]

Imp: I appreciate your faith greatly, but Fallacy is the Devil and is after my soul-(don't default on car loans in hell.) My role has two abilities, one of them kills me at the end of the next day, and the other sends a sixth of my soul irreversibly to the abyss.
Are you capable of interacting with an unremovable status?

Here's the day/night2 thing he said.

He hasn't said he used or intends to use the ability that kills him the next day, and he said it was balanced so he didn't trust it being changed, if I understand him right.

But he claims 2 abilities and one takes 1/6 his soul - and he has that decrement status thing so presumably he may have already lost some soul, hasn't said how much; presumably when he reaches 0 he 'goes to hell' (But remains in the Theatre, maybe he can chat there still!).  I presume the other sets his decrement to 0 or below in one step at that time.

So, he's probably alive past D2, I guess unless someone kills him and he stays dead or my meddling is... handled bruskly by God whom poor Verm thinks is Satan.  No wonder Verm got into this mess, that's no way to think of our God!

Oh, I thought it's automatic 100% death by next day

[Crystalizedmire]

Imp: I appreciate your faith greatly, but Fallacy is the Devil and is after my soul-(don't default on car loans in hell.) My role has two abilities, one of them kills me at the end of the next day, and the other sends a sixth of my soul irreversibly to the abyss.
Are you capable of interacting with an unremovable status?

Here's the day/night2 thing he said.

That seems like they're trying preserve themself if anything.

@Crystal:
I think Tric will be harmful, more so than usual, but they're not a good vote unless I believe they're mafia, which I don't feel strongly about.

Yeah, I understand that.

Tric - Probably just someone trying for hat victory but they are still town. I'd appreciate it if we all decided to collectively have only one person mug them while another assesses them. Vermillion mugging seems like a good option as their chances of hat victory seem as slim as mine. Imp can assess cuz I town her.

On this, I get assessment, but why Mug? Like, is mugging a free action?
actually reads the hat informational. Apparently so. I am anti-hat apparently. Wouldn't an assessment be enough to tell? It counts night end total.

Mug planning feels like the hats held will inflate quickly, forcing HATLO way way too early.
On an aside, is Toony planning to go for Hat Tyrant? If so vote them out today so we don't have to deal with that.

This, for some reason, made me think that Tric has an ability to Mug twice or something. Basically something that helps Hat victory

I don't think so. I think that he just didn't read the original post. Besides that, having an ability to mug twice specifically would be very overpowered and I doubt that Fallacy would do that.

[Krr1ss]

Ow. Strike one, I suppose.

The thing that kills me is a status effect with a timer, not an ability. Once Downwards Escalator reaches zero, game over, I die.*
It's impossible to remove Downwards Escalator from me.

For the love of God, how do you not see this as "I'll live somehow"

How do you see this as*

Well.  Hi.  I'd like to introduce myself as Imp.  And I've got the impetus, impetuousness, imperialness, impertinence, implacability, impracticality, imprudence, impudence, impassionedness, and impropriety to implore and importune even for implausible and impossible imposed 'improvements'... we'll see if this causes imprecations or even an earlier claim on the impignoration... hope not but I'ma try anyway!

I'll read this as "Imma try changing that" correct me if I'm wrong

[Krr1ss]

Okay, what about the Theater chat? I suspect we'd get one scum in there so who's most suspicious out of Tric/Cat/Vermilion/Agentt?

It's not Tric.
It could be Cat if Magma is right.
It could be Vermilion if Jim is right and me and Imp are wrong.
It could be Agentt if Jim and me are wrong.

Out of this it feels like Cat or Vermilion are the most likely to be scum if the scenario guess is correct.

What's the point of going after a dead man? And who is to say there is only one

[Krr1ss]

Really? That's how it works? I thought that everyone steals randomly from another so it's a shuffle

Well, this is from our OP, what do you think?  I think that's the game's scariest caveat, but maybe someone's role hides an even scarier one:

During the Night, any player may use the Mug, Graverob, or Assess abilities. (See below.)

(Free, Night) Mug [target]: You must have hats... You steal a random Hat ability your target possesses at the end of the Night. If you do not currently possess a Hat ability, you instead steal all the Hat abilities your target possesses. Caveat: if multiple players attempt to Mug the same player, then instead a random player among those players steals a random Hat ability from each player attempting to Mug your target.

(Free, Night) Graverob [target (dead)]: Hats belong to the living! Choose a Hat ability possessed by a dead player, and steal it. Caveat: If multiple players attempt to Graverob the same Hat, then a random player among those players receives that Hat.

(Free, Night) Assess [target]: Do they have... hats? Learn how many Hats the target has at the end of this Night, as well as the name of a random Hat among those.

Whoa, that's scary

[Crystalizedmire]

Okay, what about the Theater chat? I suspect we'd get one scum in there so who's most suspicious out of Tric/Cat/Vermilion/Agentt?

It's not Tric.
It could be Cat if Magma is right.
It could be Vermilion if Jim is right and me and Imp are wrong.
It could be Agentt if Jim and me are wrong.

Out of this it feels like Cat or Vermilion are the most likely to be scum if the scenario guess is correct.

What's the point of going after a dead man? And who is to say there is only one

And who is to say that Fallacy will for sure add scum into the theater chat?
Fallacy can be a bit of a troll when designing games after all.

[Krr1ss]

Imp: I appreciate your faith greatly, but Fallacy is the Devil and is after my soul-(don't default on car loans in hell.) My role has two abilities, one of them kills me at the end of the next day, and the other sends a sixth of my soul irreversibly to the abyss.
Are you capable of interacting with an unremovable status?

Here's the day/night2 thing he said.

That seems like they're trying preserve themself if anything.

@Crystal:
I think Tric will be harmful, more so than usual, but they're not a good vote unless I believe they're mafia, which I don't feel strongly about.

Yeah, I understand that.

Tric - Probably just someone trying for hat victory but they are still town. I'd appreciate it if we all decided to collectively have only one person mug them while another assesses them. Vermillion mugging seems like a good option as their chances of hat victory seem as slim as mine. Imp can assess cuz I town her.

On this, I get assessment, but why Mug? Like, is mugging a free action?
actually reads the hat informational. Apparently so. I am anti-hat apparently. Wouldn't an assessment be enough to tell? It counts night end total.

Mug planning feels like the hats held will inflate quickly, forcing HATLO way way too early.
On an aside, is Toony planning to go for Hat Tyrant? If so vote them out today so we don't have to deal with that.

This, for some reason, made me think that Tric has an ability to Mug twice or something. Basically something that helps Hat victory

I don't think so. I think that he just didn't read the original post. Besides that, having an ability to mug twice specifically would be very overpowered and I doubt that Fallacy would do that.

Why not, I find that, with some caveat, quite reasonable in this game

[Krr1ss]

Okay, what about the Theater chat? I suspect we'd get one scum in there so who's most suspicious out of Tric/Cat/Vermilion/Agentt?

It's not Tric.
It could be Cat if Magma is right.
It could be Vermilion if Jim is right and me and Imp are wrong.
It could be Agentt if Jim and me are wrong.

Out of this it feels like Cat or Vermilion are the most likely to be scum if the scenario guess is correct.

What's the point of going after a dead man? And who is to say there is only one

And who is to say that Fallacy will for sure add scum into the theater chat?
Fallacy can be a bit of a troll when designing games after all.

Exactly, so don't rely on that cluster read so much is my idea

[Crystalizedmire]

Imp: I appreciate your faith greatly, but Fallacy is the Devil and is after my soul-(don't default on car loans in hell.) My role has two abilities, one of them kills me at the end of the next day, and the other sends a sixth of my soul irreversibly to the abyss.
Are you capable of interacting with an unremovable status?

Here's the day/night2 thing he said.

That seems like they're trying preserve themself if anything.

@Crystal:
I think Tric will be harmful, more so than usual, but they're not a good vote unless I believe they're mafia, which I don't feel strongly about.

Yeah, I understand that.

Tric - Probably just someone trying for hat victory but they are still town. I'd appreciate it if we all decided to collectively have only one person mug them while another assesses them. Vermillion mugging seems like a good option as their chances of hat victory seem as slim as mine. Imp can assess cuz I town her.

On this, I get assessment, but why Mug? Like, is mugging a free action?
actually reads the hat informational. Apparently so. I am anti-hat apparently. Wouldn't an assessment be enough to tell? It counts night end total.

Mug planning feels like the hats held will inflate quickly, forcing HATLO way way too early.
On an aside, is Toony planning to go for Hat Tyrant? If so vote them out today so we don't have to deal with that.

This, for some reason, made me think that Tric has an ability to Mug twice or something. Basically something that helps Hat victory

I don't think so. I think that he just didn't read the original post. Besides that, having an ability to mug twice specifically would be very overpowered and I doubt that Fallacy would do that.

Why not, I find that, with some caveat, quite reasonable in this game

Okay, which part of my post are you responding to?

[Krr1ss]

Imp: I appreciate your faith greatly, but Fallacy is the Devil and is after my soul-(don't default on car loans in hell.) My role has two abilities, one of them kills me at the end of the next day, and the other sends a sixth of my soul irreversibly to the abyss.
Are you capable of interacting with an unremovable status?

Here's the day/night2 thing he said.

That seems like they're trying preserve themself if anything.

@Crystal:
I think Tric will be harmful, more so than usual, but they're not a good vote unless I believe they're mafia, which I don't feel strongly about.

Yeah, I understand that.

Tric - Probably just someone trying for hat victory but they are still town. I'd appreciate it if we all decided to collectively have only one person mug them while another assesses them. Vermillion mugging seems like a good option as their chances of hat victory seem as slim as mine. Imp can assess cuz I town her.

On this, I get assessment, but why Mug? Like, is mugging a free action?
actually reads the hat informational. Apparently so. I am anti-hat apparently. Wouldn't an assessment be enough to tell? It counts night end total.

Mug planning feels like the hats held will inflate quickly, forcing HATLO way way too early.
On an aside, is Toony planning to go for Hat Tyrant? If so vote them out today so we don't have to deal with that.

This, for some reason, made me think that Tric has an ability to Mug twice or something. Basically something that helps Hat victory

I don't think so. I think that he just didn't read the original post. Besides that, having an ability to mug twice specifically would be very overpowered and I doubt that Fallacy would do that.

Why not, I find that, with some caveat, quite reasonable in this game

Okay, which part of my post are you responding to?

I think that two-mug ability or something similar which gives hat advantage is quite reasonable in this game.
I kinda rate specific powers in my head, ranging from SS, which would for example be absolute knowledge of everyone's roles and hats (which is my first submission actually but I found that boring) to D like giving someone a fruit. For reference, Doctor is B while NCN vig is A.
Anyway, I have S tier power and one more C~A tier depending on my (in)ability (skill) and two mug seems somewhere along the line of S tier which is reasonable.
In fact, judging by Fallacy's crazy laugh at me thinking my role is strong, I am guessing there's an SS tier power in play. At least one. And it's quite possible it's scum's power.