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[Oliverz144]

I demand a full claim of night 1 action as well as full role from njw2000!
Dont vote me! I am town and i can prove myself as such, all i need is njw pulling himself deeper into the mud so you can see that he is lying.

Quarque, the days are too short for subtle stuff or waiting to see things develop.

A very early case, on dubious grounds, held quite firmly. This is exactly what happened in Armed Forces when Quarque was scum… and nothing like their play in the last game as Town.

Probably not much more to add before bed. Will be online for end of day though.

This turn in events makes this bussing by njw2000

[Maximum Spin]

I hard counterclaim! Claim Your night 1 action!

Bro, he did that yesterday. You had all of yesterday to claim cop. I even specifically pointed out that nobody had done so, so you should have done it then at the latest. No, we're not doing this.

[Maximum Spin]

By the way, not that it really matters, I targeted sofanthiel. I doubt sofanthiel even has a kill, but I said I'd cover somebody so I did.

[NJW2000]

I hard counterclaim! Claim Your night 1 action!

I gave it yesterday, but sure.

I inspected Max, and they inspected as Town.

...

I guess the polite thing to do here is ask for your counterclaim?

[Oliverz144]

I hard counterclaim! Claim Your night 1 action!

I gave it yesterday, but sure.

I inspected Max, and they inspected as Town.

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I guess the polite thing to do here is ask for your counterclaim?

I am "The Chef"
I can role-name cop people.
d1 i copped nobody because i was afk, sadly
d2 i copped Sofanthiel and got "The Auctioneer" as a result.
Dear @sofanthiel please confirm this.
The reason i decided on sofa was because I did not want to target a possible town vig target.
Also me claiming YESTERDAY with NO result (as i sleeped d1) Would just put a giant target on my back, as i have a very strong Town Power Role.

[Maximum Spin]

Okay, so, that's not a counterclaim and doesn't even mean you're not also the thief.

But look, we have time to lynch more people if you turn out to be town.

[Oliverz144]

Okay, so, that's not a counterclaim and doesn't even mean you're not also the thief.

But look, we have time to lynch more people if you turn out to be town.

After sofanthiel confirms me being a rolename cop, it pretty much proves me town.

[Maximum Spin]

Okay, so, that's not a counterclaim and doesn't even mean you're not also the thief.

But look, we have time to lynch more people if you turn out to be town.

After sofanthiel confirms me being a rolename cop, it pretty much proves me town.

You realize that rolecops are frequently a scum role in the first place, right?

[Oliverz144]

Okay, so, that's not a counterclaim and doesn't even mean you're not also the thief.

But look, we have time to lynch more people if you turn out to be town.

After sofanthiel confirms me being a rolename cop, it pretty much proves me town.

You realize that rolecops are frequently a scum role in the first place, right?

a) not rolename cops.
b) not as a third party neutral thingy, more like a group scum then...

so sorry =) i am split opinion between who it is: You or NJW
because Max claimed imp scum, which wasnt true...

[Oliverz144]

there could be a redirecting role here... I think its time for an entire full claim.
NJW and me did so already.
The others should claim in this order
max please claim and explain everything!
crystalized mirei kinda townread You, but You have also been very quiet... You are second on the claims.
sofanthiel depending on what max says you have some interesting things to say...

[Oliverz144]

So far we got the following claims:

NJW: COP
d1: Max Town
d2: Oli "Thief"

Oli: Rolename COP
d1: /
d2: Sofanthiel "The Auctioneer"

Max: ??
d1: Imp
d2: Sofanthiel

Crystalized Mire: ??

Sofanthiel: ??


I might have overlooked or skipped something, if so, please quote and/or repeat it

[NJW2000]

I am wondering about a redirector.

Currently, I think I'm split between Max and Oliverz. Don't think it's CM or sofa.

Do you think that:

• NJW is lying and there were three anti-town in a 7 player game,
• Tric made two godfather scum and a miller, then made NJW a cop out of some kind of cruel personal grudge, or
• I'm somehow that much of a mafia genius that I pegged NJW as a cop sight-unseen and redirected him to a town player instead of just killing him?

If those all sound a little implausible to you, and they should, the other alternative is just that, you know, the inspection is right and I'm town.

Been thinking about this post.

Tric made the Bring 1/2/3 games where players were allowed to bring random roles from the mafia wiki. You played in them - he definitely has form for 1) and 2)

*eyes Max with suspicion*

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Hm... as to the possibility of a redirect, it would have to be:

Some who knew who the thief was redirecting me onto the thief. And I think only the thief knows who the thief is. So a redirect would require that Max has managed to redirect me twice: once onto town and once onto themselves. The second redirect would make tactical sense, because it's predictable that I'd be investigating someone other than Max, but the first one would be getting very lucky.

Also, I'm not sure if I see Max as a 3p Thief. I think I see Max as Quarque's scumbuddy if anything, which would indicate that Oliverz genuinely is the thief, barring some kind of bizarre frame-as-3p power. Which is just within the realm of the plausible, but far outside of likely.


I think I'm going to have to see a pretty good argument from Oliverz to not elim them today.

If the game doesn't end after that, it's Max.

[Oliverz144]

I am wondering about a redirector.

Currently, I think I'm split between Max and Oliverz. Don't think it's CM or sofa.

Do you think that:

• NJW is lying and there were three anti-town in a 7 player game,
• Tric made two godfather scum and a miller, then made NJW a cop out of some kind of cruel personal grudge, or
• I'm somehow that much of a mafia genius that I pegged NJW as a cop sight-unseen and redirected him to a town player instead of just killing him?

If those all sound a little implausible to you, and they should, the other alternative is just that, you know, the inspection is right and I'm town.

Been thinking about this post.

Tric made the Bring 1/2/3 games where players were allowed to bring random roles from the mafia wiki. You played in them - he definitely has form for 1) and 2)

*eyes Max with suspicion*

...

Hm... as to the possibility of a redirect, it would have to be:

Some who knew who the thief was redirecting me onto the thief. And I think only the thief knows who the thief is. So a redirect would require that Max has managed to redirect me twice: once onto town and once onto themselves. The second redirect would make tactical sense, because it's predictable that I'd be investigating someone other than Max, but the first one would be getting very lucky.

Also, I'm not sure if I see Max as a 3p Thief. I think I see Max as Quarque's scumbuddy if anything, which would indicate that Oliverz genuinely is the thief, barring some kind of bizarre frame-as-3p power. Which is just within the realm of the plausible, but far outside of likely.


I think I'm going to have to see a pretty good argument from Oliverz to not elim them today.

If the game doesn't end after that, it's Max.

Sofanthiel confirming my result is argument enough, isnt it?

[NJW2000]

No, it really isn't.

We know there are probably frames in the game from Imp's flip, and people could definitely have predict my action D2. So I'm not 100% on your elim. But the fact that you inspected a player and learned their rolename doesn't mean you're not 3rd party.

Non-town players can be given rolecop powers. You're not going to convince me otherwise, and I won't look kindly on a defence that weak.

[Crystalizedmire]

I didn't act yesterday nor the day before because I was saving my shots.