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Author Topic: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - GAME OVER - TOWN VICTORY  (Read 59021 times)

Imp

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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1920 on: February 07, 2024, 09:41:37 pm »

Assuming Toony's detect happens at the end of the night, yes, I have no reason to think they aren't detectable.

Except I know my remove from play happens before 'end of night'.  So... that overlap only works if there's been a mistake.
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TricMagic

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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1921 on: February 07, 2024, 09:41:52 pm »

That isn't a request by the way.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1922 on: February 07, 2024, 09:42:05 pm »

Elephant, might want to state your spheres in full.

Why?  What's the pro-town benefit and anti-town benefit?
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1923 on: February 07, 2024, 09:42:25 pm »

Elephant, might want to state your spheres in full.
I don't see a reason to. I can if people want.

That isn't a request by the way.
Oh, OK.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1924 on: February 07, 2024, 09:46:34 pm »

Elephant, might want to state your spheres in full.
I don't see a reason to. I can if people want.

That isn't a request by the way.
Oh, OK.
Wrong answer.

Imp, the question was to see. Right now we knwo 3 spheres they have. Role Detection, Chat, and Kill. From this, we can deduce the presence of Uncertainty and Limitation at the minimum. This would be the Town Elephant.
The existence of the Knife however, is a very convoluted way to die. There is a payoff to this. Which is form a bunch of chats, die, and take out a lot of people at once. I am therefore accusing Elephant Parade of being an SK. Or at minimum, Third Party.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1925 on: February 07, 2024, 09:48:32 pm »

Tric, maybe.

The item you started play with, do you have all the spheres that were on it?

The item created by the chat, may not actually be made with spheres EP has?

Also, Toony said 2 kill sphere players detected, right?

That would be... Tric and... EJ?

Or am I wrong?
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1926 on: February 07, 2024, 09:49:51 pm »

Well, ToonyMan wants me dead, so I'll probably be executed today. I'll full claim, accordingly.

My role name is This Setup Is Not Mechanically Solvable, Sorry.

I took Improvement -> Slow -> Overpowered -> Cascade -> Vulnerability -> Convolution -> Flux -> Meta, for the pain.

I started out with:

-(auto) Butterfly Effect (vulnerability, flux),
-(auto) Integrate (improvement, overpowered, convolution, meta),
-(night) Duplicate (flux, meta, slow, cascade, overpowered, improvement)
-(night) Accelerate (flux, meta, slow, cascade, overpowered, improvement)

And the Purple Chaos Emerald.

Butterfly Effect, back when it existed, chose a random player at the start of each Day, and until the next Day, if that player died, I would too.

Integrate would have, if my actions ever cumulatively targeted seven or more different spheres, cause me to gain a new ability based on those spheres.

Duplicate and Accelerate I've already claimed and can be verified.

On Night 1, I used Duplicate on Overpowered, because I thought it'd be a popular choice and it'd make a copy of Accelerate.

On Night 2, I used my Accelerate copy on Cascade, and my base Accelerate on Improvement, to make the widest splash possible and also make the original Duplicate Free in Imp's hands. I know Imp said it'd become Free anyways, but I don't know if that costs some kind of resource?

Currently, I have the Purple Chaos Emerald, a Ritual Knife, and (auto) Butterfly Integration (meta, flux, fruit-selling), which I gained Night 1 after losing both Butterfly Effect and Integrate.

Whenever a player dies, Butterfly Integration gains a random sphere that player had as part of their abilities. (If a sphere would be gained twice, the gain is cancelled.) If it ever reaches seven spheres, it transforms into a new form based on the spheres it gained.

It started out with meta and flux, then I was told it gained fruit-selling.

That's all I've got to claim. Any questions?
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1927 on: February 07, 2024, 09:50:31 pm »

Also, Toony said 2 kill sphere players detected, right?

That would be... Tric and... EJ?

Or am I wrong?
That's correct. The three items would then be the Six Shooter and the two Knives me and FoU got.

I don't think Elephant is mafia or SK here.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1928 on: February 07, 2024, 09:51:04 pm »

If I create items tonight, they could be flipping anything.  I know they will be [artefact].  They will go to a player other than me.  As far as I know, they could have any spheres, including spheres I have and spheres I don't have.  I don't know if they could have only 1 sphere or more than one.

I will agree not to make them if we agree it's not reasonably pro-town enough, I don't need to make them, it's cool fluff.

But I can apparently can make items with spheres I don't have, so this seems possible to me that others maybe can too.

Different ability, different rules, no idea in EP's case.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1929 on: February 07, 2024, 09:51:48 pm »

Wrong answer.

Imp, the question was to see. Right now we knwo 3 spheres they have. Role Detection, Chat, and Kill. From this, we can deduce the presence of Uncertainty and Limitation at the minimum. This would be the Town Elephant.
The existence of the Knife however, is a very convoluted way to die. There is a payoff to this. Which is form a bunch of chats, die, and take out a lot of people at once. I am therefore accusing Elephant Parade of being an SK. Or at minimum, Third Party.
I don't have Kill (it's only on the knives, the ability that gives them out doesn't have it), Role Detection (it would fit on my freecop ability, but I don't have it), or Limitation. I do have Uncertainty though. Toonyman can basically confirm that I have Cascade. I still don't see a good reason to fullclaim.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1930 on: February 07, 2024, 09:54:13 pm »

Tric, maybe.

The item you started play with, do you have all the spheres that were on it?

The item created by the chat, may not actually be made with spheres EP has?

Also, Toony said 2 kill sphere players detected, right?

That would be... Tric and... EJ?

Or am I wrong?
There might be the possibility of Setup Knowledge? Think Toony checked that, not sure if we ever figured out who had it. Which means they're not operating under any limitation. (Might also have Vulnerability for some reason. I'm proof our roles can be influenced before game after all.)
... It can't actually be EJ, since Elephant passed out a Kill item, unless it was EJ that passed it out and this is a Team scenario. The chatters build their chat, then send it tumbling down.

Elephant, that's not any better given you'd have Vulnerability. Which means Thwart or Redirection.

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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1931 on: February 07, 2024, 09:54:38 pm »

If y'all are thinking my role seems pretty useless, then yes, maybe that's what I get for taking five red spheres.

I thought it would be funny, though.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1932 on: February 07, 2024, 09:55:51 pm »

To note Imp, the Magnifying Glass has Necromancy on it. Cause it checks the cause of death. I can see your point, but that doesn't remove much suspicion here given late night paranoia. It's 9 o'clock.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1933 on: February 07, 2024, 09:56:56 pm »

Scracth that thwart/redirect. You can reach Cacade directly, which opens up Necromancy. OP too if you wanted it.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - -D3 - Who died?
« Reply #1934 on: February 07, 2024, 09:57:50 pm »

Like, that's a really clever routing. Can congratulate you on that.
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