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[Elephant Parade]

Sofanthiel: I didn't read you as scum D1, but your recalcitrance since has me reconsidering. It's not the lack of activity, it's the caginess. Explain yourself or I'll vote you.

[Maximum Spin]

I feel like it's worth mentioning that sofanthiel's votes keep apparently doubling and this is probably bad.

[Imp]

I feel like it's worth mentioning that sofanthiel's votes keep apparently doubling and this is probably bad.

Can you quote where you see this doubling being a characteristic of that person, and not something else?

To my understanding, the Esteemed notquitethere lost their vote D2, and has it back today, though the Esteemed Jim Groovester somehow gained 2 extra votes, not one.

Then, D3, we see the Esteemed sofanthiel without a vote, and the Esteemed Secretdorf somehow gained 2 extra votes, not one.

Why do you believe this may be a Esteemed-sofanthiel-specific characteristic, can you help me understand the mechanics you see in play?

[notquitethere]

pfp

Can confirm I have a vote again.

Jim, your steal one phase only or is it some other reason?

[Maximum Spin]

Perhaps it was sofanthiel's votes that were stolen both times, but NQT's vote was transferred as well.

[hector13]

Esteemed The Canadian kitten, can you confirm your action and results?

Esteemed BlackHeartKabal should also make an appearance and explain all this voodoo shit.

Esteemed sofanthiel

CONSCIOUSNESS SET-UP SEQUENCE IN MOTION...
PHOTON SENSORS OPERATIONAL...
LINK WITH EXTERNAL PROCESSING UNIT ESTABLISHED...
I want to quickly preface this by apologizing for my day 2 absence.  I was unusually busy, and then the discussion prematurely halted on account of Egan's face coming face-to-hammer with a hammer.  If there is anything that requires my addressing from that period of time, please "quote"/hyperlink it!

Sofathaniel: Declare night action please

@Sofanthiel:
What'd you do last night?

As much as I enjoy responding to your queries, I'm afraid I can provide no comment on the above.  I will reveal that information exclusively if I deem doing so beneficial or vital.  Neither is the case right now.

NOOOOOOO I WANTED SOFANTHIEL'S VOTES

GO STEAL SOMEBODY ELSE'S VOTES

No need to fight; there's enough for everyone!

you should roleclaim and also tell us what you did the previous nights. If you fail to comply, you'll likely face the fate that befell Egan.

We'll see about that... hahaha.
In all seriousness, those surely can't be the only two possible outcomes; we still have dozens of hours of pure, concentrated, non-stop digital yapping ahead of the twelve of us!

One might suggest, if you are town, you stop wasting that time and reveal what you know so we can actually find scum.

[Imp]

Perhaps it was sofanthiel's votes that were stolen both times, but NQT's vote was transferred as well.

Confused newbie here.  How's this work?

Also, could a vote grower also gain votes past hammer, if that could possibly be done?  Cause we had votes past hammer already this game.

D1, we see each person seems to have 1 vote, nothing looks weird to me there.  Hammer was 9, 9 votes used in hammer from 9 different people.

Notice this interesting claim:

...Anyway, I would like to request that, if not too inconvenient, any chosen player not be hammered until number for hammer plummets down to seven, and upon day end, at time of execution, only be voted by seven players maximum.

As for why, it grants a benefit which will be obvious soon after we do that.

I could hoard 6 or 7 votes by D4.

That math doesn't work if this person can gain +1 vote per day.  D4 would be 3 previous lynches.  This self proclaimed

I cultivate the Dao of votes.

Well, what if they get more votes past the hammer, 'hoarding' those that are in excess of the hammer?  And they just didn't predict that anyone but themself might have more votes than 1, so no growth like that possible so early.  But they want to be the 7th/last person, so they can use all their extra votes, growing even more even faster.

Esteemed Secretdorf claims to be a vote grower (VGrow)
Esteemed Jim Groovester claims to have stolen one vote, and we see two votes (VSteal)
Esteemed sofanthiel is claimed as intended target D2 and D3 (tar1)
Esteemed notquitethere is apparent accidental target D2. (tar2)

D2, we see VSteal has 2 extra votes, tar2 has 0, tar1 has 1.  Maybe both taken?  VGrow has 1, hammer was 10 (9 needed between 7 different people)
D3, we see VSteal has 0 extra votes, tar2 has 1, tar1 has 0.  Maybe VGrow has 3, an extra from the past the hammer,  + the one that VSteal didn't seem to get.

If so, seems a bit underhanded.

What do others think?

[Imp]

EBWOP the actual execution D2 had 8 voters, with 10 votes.  That's not enough to maybe make the votes grow for some cultivator, but maybe the excess still gets hoarded.

[The Canadian kitten]

Esteemed The Canadian kitten, can you confirm your action and results?

Pfp
There's a few options about the outcome of my investigation results.

1. Sofa is town and I was killed by another player
2. Sofa is town and used a kill action
3. Sofa is town and they fulfilled a potential secret condition
4. Sofa is some kind of miller that haven't claimed but really should of.
5. Sofa is anti town and possibly used a kill action

However Sofa refusal to claim anything would rule out a lot of the options and make option 5 very likely. Had Sofa actually claim any action that fulfilled the secret condition, I would have given sofa a slight pass. Even then, sofa refusal to claim anything seems untownlike

[Elephant Parade]

Could you explain how your inspect works generally, if you haven't already?

[Elephant Parade]

Oh wait, you did earlier. PFP or I'd dig up the post.Thanks.

[hector13]

I got roleblocked while visiting Sofathaniel

Either someone roleblocked me or Sofa's role did something/might have copied my ability results.

Not quite sure which.

Esteemed The Canadian kitten,

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Would you explain why you suspect Esteemed Sofathaniel somehow might have copied your ability results, if what happened to you was a roleblock?

The result (Sofa dying and reviving) is essentially what is supposed to happen to me if Sofa had been discovered to be anti-town/used a kill action. Unless there are people who can revive Sofa last night and knew to revive Sofa, or Sofa has an ability that operates differently but with the same effects as mine. I don't see any other way how Sofa would have died and revived.
Could be totally proven wrong though.

I think it’s this one.

[Imp]

I think it’s this one.

Maybe this one too.

Judging by the flavour text, It seems that I wasn't killed.

Do keep in mind that I die when inspecting Anti-town or the target used a kill action

[hector13]

Esteemed The Canadian kitten

Esteemed The Canadian kitten, can you confirm your action and results?

Pfp
There's a few options about the outcome of my investigation results.

1. Sofa is town and I was killed by another player
2. Sofa is town and used a kill action
3. Sofa is town and they fulfilled a potential secret condition
4. Sofa is some kind of miller that haven't claimed but really should of.
5. Sofa is anti town and possibly used a kill action

However Sofa refusal to claim anything would rule out a lot of the options and make option 5 very likely. Had Sofa actually claim any action that fulfilled the secret condition, I would have given sofa a slight pass. Even then, sofa refusal to claim anything seems untownlike

So, what’s this secret condition thing about?

Also, Esteemed sofanthiel would just have to have used a kill action on any player, not just you, in order for you to die and revive?

[The Canadian kitten]

Esteemed The Canadian kitten

Esteemed The Canadian kitten, can you confirm your action and results?

Pfp
There's a few options about the outcome of my investigation results.

1. Sofa is town and I was killed by another player
2. Sofa is town and used a kill action
3. Sofa is town and they fulfilled a potential secret condition
4. Sofa is some kind of miller that haven't claimed but really should of.
5. Sofa is anti town and possibly used a kill action

However Sofa refusal to claim anything would rule out a lot of the options and make option 5 very likely. Had Sofa actually claim any action that fulfilled the secret condition, I would have given sofa a slight pass. Even then, sofa refusal to claim anything seems untownlike

So, what’s this secret condition thing about?

Also, Esteemed sofanthiel would just have to have used a kill action on any player, not just you, in order for you to die and revive?

1:Should I say it? I don't really want Sofa to claim that action as their claim even though they refused to claim
2: It just have to be a kill action they used this night on any other players.