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Voting closed: May 27, 2023, 04:40:22 am

[a1s]

If a player's fort/castle runs out of defenders it falls to the enemy, right?

[Kashyyk]

Good thing they got stalled out at the Fort rather than making it to my Castle.

@NQT: My reprisal odds didn't increase after taking the Village at F15.

@Quarque/Cript: I will permit passage this turn for 1 Stone or 2 Gold

1x Infantry get trained as Archers (-2 wood) and are garrisoned in Fort Hollivy
1x Infantry garrisons Shandston's Folly
1x Infantry marches on the empty lair at G11
1x Infantry scouts H10->H9->G9
7x Infantry breaks the Siege at Fort Heather (H13). The Garrison sallies forth to join the battle

Spoiler: Prince Mackial FitzHarbort (click to show/hide)

Border Colour: Orange

H14 - Castle: Shandston's Folly
Defence: 14/14
Army Cap: 11
Features:
 - Library (+1 rumor /turn)
 - Mustering Yard (+1 recruitment /turn)
 - Marketplace (+1 income /turn)
 - Tower (+4/+4 defence, +1 army cap)

H13 - Marsh: Fort Heather
Defence: 2/8
Garrison: 2/3 (1x Archers, 1x Infantry)

I11 - Forest: Fort Hollivy
Defence: 6/8
Garrison: 0/3

Resources:
Army : 10/11 (+4/turn) = 11(curr) + 4(inc) - 1 (Fort Hollivy)
Gold: 16 (+2/turn) = 14(curr) +2(inc)
Stone: 1 (+0/turn)  = 1(curr)
Wood : 8 (+4/turn) = 6(curr) + 4(inc) - 2(bows)
Debt: 20

Territory: F13 (Forest), F15 (Village), G15 (Forest), G13 (Marsh), G12 (Hill), H15 (Village), H14 (Shandston's Folly), H13 (Marsh, Fort Heather), H12 (Marsh), I15 (Forest), I14 (Village), I12 (Marsh), I11 (Forest, Fort Hollivy)
Artefacts: None
Equipment: None
Units: 10x Infantry

[Quarque]

So it will be, then.

Orders:

Buy 2 stone for 4 gold
Pay 1 stone to Prince Mackial FitzHarbort
Pay 1 stone to Gerald Wright
Pay 1 stone to Marquess Ambrosio Vulk
Pay 1 stone to Marchioness Aywen Ayes
March 9 armies (1 equipped with the Rhuddy Cape) to A7
Build a Fort ("Neubockelstein") on D11 for 5 wood
Scout B14-B15-A15

Spoiler: Marquess Fritz Ferdinand von Bockhoven (click to show/hide)

Border Colour: Yellow
C13 - Castle: Bockelstein
Defense: 10/10
Army Cap: 10
Features:
* Coppicing Grove: +1 wood production
* Mustering Yard: +1 recruitment (+1 army size per turn, up to your max)
* Shipyard (coast only): -2 wood required for making ships. Boats hold +1 army.

Resources:
Army: 10 (+3/turn) = 10-2(curr) + 3(inc) -1(cap)
Gold: 10 (+1/turn) = 4(curr) + 9(lair) + 1(inc) -4(buying stone)
Stone: 0 (+1/turn) = 1(curr) + 1(inc) - 2(payments)
Wood: 5 (+3/turn) = 6(curr) + 3(inc) + 1(giant club) - 5(build fort)

Artefacts: the Rhuddy Cape
Equipment: 1 Boat and 1 Ship
Special Units: None

as discussed, I will cooperate with the forces of Marquess Ambrosio Vulk in the Battle for A7.
The Marrowfat Throne and the Pellucid Orb will go to him

Rest assured I will guarantee you the Spiked Femur back in case you would lose it - although I think this is extremely unlikely to happen with the overkill we're sending.

[Criptfeind]

If you want to pay me the stone on a later turn to save yourself from having to purchase it now, I don't mind.

[Quarque]

no worries, you're getting it today

[notquitethere]

My scouting is a bit weird, when I absorbed the hill I see "From the hill: NW: you see unusual site" However, NW was already scouted last turn and is as far as I can tell, just a normal marsh? Am I misunderstanding something there or bug? Criptifeind can't tell east from west.

I switch them round in my head too.

Also I scouted O9 and found a dragon with stone+gold but the dragon was placed on O8, displacing whatever the unusual site is I think?

It displaced another marshland. I've swapped it back round. Good spot.

As a question to the notquitethere: If me and Quarque attacked the marrowthrone and I ended up holding the throne, and then paid the grove of tusks in that same turn, would that end up as I wish it too, with me holding the marrowthrone and 0 retaliation percentage?

Sure, if the payment is made before the next enemy phase, and you don't kill any more barbarians after that, it would be zero for the enemy phase.

If a player's fort/castle runs out of defenders it falls to the enemy, right?

Correct, even if it has defence left. This is why Keeps are good.

@NQT: My reprisal odds didn't increase after taking the Village at F15.

Fixed.

[a1s]

Giants in sieges, how do they work vis-a-vis being 3 armies? Do they regenerate every turn?

[notquitethere]

Giants in sieges, how do they work vis-a-vis being 3 armies? Do they regenerate every turn?

Good question... I suppose they should do because:
1. New combats can occur mid-seige
2. I don't want to have to track health levels
3. They can go behind the walls and have a little rest between assaults.

Does this make dragons/giants more scary? Maybe.

[Criptfeind]

That's very scary for fighting castle Bryn, or at least it would be if their rules didn't suggest that you'll pretty much always end up killing at least half of them via field battles (patrol or against their reclamation is a bit unclear though) before you get to the castle.

If you break a fort/castles defenses down to 0 during a round, it turns into just a normal combat next round right? If so, does it still only do the siege battle that turn, and the normal battle rounds would have to take place next turn, or would the normal battle immediately commence at the end of the siege round?

[Criptfeind]

Also I think when you fixed the swamp swap you accidentally left in the partially processed turn. Spoiler alert!

[a1s]

it's interesting to me that siege engines don't actually break walls (they kill people but the chance to destory a wall is still 3/8).

[Criptfeind]

Okay, I belive that this turn order, assuming we win A7, ends with me having neutered the marrowfat throne before it can fuck anyone up.

Spoiler: Turn 6 gains/losses (click to show/hide)

Wood -2
Seige +1
Army -2
Fort Ivy +2 army
Seige -1
O15: Forest +1 Wood production
P9: Hill
P15: Hill
+1 Wood
2 armies 2 skeletons 1 skeleton archer currently sieging fort

Spoiler: Marquess Ambrosio Vulk (click to show/hide)

Background: Bone Reckoner
Castle Name: Castle Mysterious
Colour: Blue

Castle: P14
Army: 13-2+5=16!-3=13/13
Defence: 10/10
Features: Mustering Yard, Barracks, Coppicing Grove

Wood Production: 3
Recruitment: 5
Income: 1

Gold: 9+1=10
Debt: 0
Wood: 5-2+1+3=7
Stone: 0

Artifacts: Last Femur
Equipment: None
Special Units: 4 Skeleton warriors 1 Skeleton Archer

Holdings list:
P12: Lair
O14: Village +1 Recruitment
P11: Forest Fort Ivy 6/8 +1 Wood Production 2 Armies
Q13: Village +1 Recruitment
P13 Village +1 Recruitment
P10 Village +1 Recruitment
O15: Forest +1 Wood production
P9: Hill
P15: Hill

Spoiler: Turn 7 (click to show/hide)

Permission for moving though lands of Aywen Ayes, Fritz Ferdinand, Gerald Wright, and Mackial FitzHarbort gained for this turn
3 armies 2 skeletons 1 skeleton archer continue sieging fort Hawthorn 1/5 at Q14
6 armies with last femur join Fritz Ferdinand von Bockhovens march on A7
1 Army with 2 skeleton warriors marches on Q15
Scout takes 10 gold to F13 The Grove of Tusks and makes sacrifical offering
Scout O8-O7-O6
Scout P8-P7-P6
Scout N15-M15-M14

[notquitethere]

Also I think when you fixed the swamp swap you accidentally left in the partially processed turn. Spoiler alert!

Oops. Uh... should be fixed now!

If you break a fort/castles defenses down to 0 during a round, it turns into just a normal combat next round right? If so, does it still only do the siege battle that turn, and the normal battle rounds would have to take place next turn, or would the normal battle immediately commence at the end of the siege round?

A normal battle commences as soon as the walls are completely destroyed.

it's interesting to me that siege engines don't actually break walls (they kill people but the chance to destory a wall is still 3/8).

This would be a better way of implementing the siege engines:

- for one roll, walls breaks on a lower dice result, with each additional engine lowering it further, so on a 4+, then a 3+ etc. instead.

This means it would actually just give better targeting to walls, and also you couldn't stockpile siege engines indefinitely to ultrakill on any siege.

I'd be quite tempted to move over to this, but it's not good form to chop-and-change the mechanics mid-game.

[a1s]

I'd be quite tempted to move over to this, but it's not good form to chop-and-change the mechanics mid-game.

We could take a vote on this: if no one minds (i.e. unanimous approval) we will switch.
I vote switch.

[notquitethere]

I've put up a poll!