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« Reply #960 on: September 25, 2023, 12:32:11 pm »

Welllll, that's demonstrably false.

But they do get a buzz off relationships with extranatural beings, that is true. In that way the rainbow is God's.... wedding ring?

More analogous to an abusive spouse giving their partner gifts after they get out of the hospital imo.

'I'm sorry I killed 99.99% of you, I promise not to do it again.' Except for the part about being sorry of course.
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« Reply #961 on: September 26, 2023, 04:01:40 am »

I remember our government forced someone to remove a... I think it was a blanket? With 4 colors, from his window. Because apparently it looked too much like a pride flag.
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« Reply #962 on: September 26, 2023, 07:17:20 am »

Like the self-styled 'Vampyr' of the deMagpie clan on Discworld, they have sought to catalogue and understand all the symbology that they feel that will do them harm in their efforts to break away from all the old traditions...


But that just ends up meaning that they see passable immitations everywhere!
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« Reply #963 on: September 27, 2023, 02:05:37 pm »

The rainbow flag adoption was a god-tier move in retrospect. It's symbolic, original, and commonplace.
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« Reply #964 on: September 28, 2023, 05:36:23 am »

The rainbow flag adoption was a god-tier move in retrospect. It's symbolic, original, and commonplace.
Haha god tier is apt

It also has the side effect of creating magical barriers to police horses

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« Reply #965 on: October 03, 2023, 12:08:15 pm »

The UK's NHS is in a crisis, with strikes, crumbling infrastructure, insufficient funding, insufficient training, excessive wait times...

So what's the Tory government to do about it?

They're gonna segregate trans people into their own rooms, of course!
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« Reply #966 on: October 04, 2023, 03:48:02 am »

Are we talking toilets or in general. Have the toilet "issue" infected britain as well?
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« Reply #967 on: October 04, 2023, 06:02:31 am »

Wards. Currently, as I understand it[1], multi-occupancy[2] wards accept affirmed trans-individuals into their own prefered sex-seperated areas[3]. The thing above is about them always getting private rooms, with no regard for necessity, feelings, acceptance or other practicalities. There may indeed be times when a 'general ward' is not suitable for certain people who claim they need to 'cross the corridor', but this seems to very much be an actual dog-whistle thing that I hope gets nowhere (on general principle against dog-whistling).

(Like that other thing, elsewhere, saying that 'being a woman or gay isn't reason to be given assylum', when in some circumstances it probably very much is, in others it may only be a factor to be added into the equation. But the message clearly intended to indicate slamming the door closed, on behalf of those who would be happy just to brick all the doorways up and be done with it.)

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« Reply #968 on: October 04, 2023, 06:44:14 am »

When have wards in the UK ever been sex-separated?  ???
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« Reply #969 on: October 04, 2023, 08:10:25 am »

Might not have used the right term? I mean multi-bed dormitory(/recuperation)-room. And not whole specialist units/departments, if that's what you're thinking.

There certainly is an expectation of these not being mixed-gender (before complicating that in working with trans-gender needs, etc), though apparently not being guaranteed.

(And I don't think I've seen one (other than A&E, which is technically singular cubicles so long as it doesn't overflow into corridors) which hasn't arranged for a male/female split in different areas. Whether that be orthopedics, dementia or wherever else a spare bed has been obtained for the one who requires it. Even as a child (the longest stay in hospital that I ever had, and probably the largest 'open plan' occupancy I've experienced), it was one room (out of several) only of boys, and I must assume that there were girls' rooms elsewhere, with whom I can't remember mixing even in any additional common social area.)


News article on what is being talked about (which says 'wards', so...)
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« Reply #970 on: October 04, 2023, 01:20:15 pm »

The rainbow flag adoption was a god-tier move in retrospect. It's symbolic, original, and commonplace.
Haha god tier is apt

It also has the side effect of creating magical barriers to police horses
Jesus! Those horses are bloody colour nazis!
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« Reply #971 on: October 04, 2023, 10:35:53 pm »

I mean multi-bed dormitory(/recuperation)-room.
I can say from experience that those are definitely not sex-segregated here in my part of America, so it would be surprising to me if they bothered to do it in the UK. Are you sure this is commonplace?
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« Reply #972 on: October 05, 2023, 04:26:00 am »

They are in my experience.

Hospital wards here generally have a number of 4 person dormitories branching off a hallway. I have never seen one that puts mixed genders in the same dormitory.
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« Reply #973 on: October 05, 2023, 06:03:37 am »

News about this from 2010. And, as above, this seems to have been an ideal for as long as I've been in a position to experience it at the sharp end. (And I think that the various Carry On [Nurse/Doctor]s depicted separate wards (with suitably comedic interactions across the divides, as well as the sex-politics of the stereotypical male-doctor/female-nurse dichotomy), plus something like Only When I Laugh taking it as read, too.)

The fuss 'over here' looks to me as having been not able to make it inviolably absolute (i.e. necessity putting an occasional spanner in the works, hospital facilities not being funded enough to be the ideal buffet[1]), thus having occasional breaches while shuffling is organised. And every few years there seems to be 'questions' about why it isn't 100% (at least for England/Wales, I think Scotland's ok and dunno currently about NI).


Which is the basis for whether there is or isn't a problem with/for trans individuals. If it was all omnisex wards then it'd be barely an issue, in comparison. Being separate, it therefor concerns people a lot more (both ways, according to opinion and (perceived) scenario).


[1] "If there's not too much, there isn't enough". By funding (perhaps) to cover the average resource needs over time there's always going to be blips that exceed that, which then adds backlog over the 'average times' and even eat into the dips in demand, and probably ends up costing more in the long run by not having sometimes conspicuously copious unused capacity. But very little effort has been put into sufficiently adding capacity. If, indeed, recent governments have even fulfilled the theoretical average...
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« Reply #974 on: October 06, 2023, 03:32:27 am »

The UK's NHS is in a crisis, with strikes, crumbling infrastructure, insufficient funding, insufficient training, excessive wait times...

So what's the Tory government to do about it?

They're gonna segregate trans people into their own rooms, of course!
I thought the punchline was going to be "privatise it"

Jesus! Those horses are bloody colour nazis!
They're hardcore Stuart restoration monarchists
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