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[TolyK]

Honestly... I don't think it's TolyK, but I'm willing to bandwagon as if it were!

OK so on my, it was NJW, NQT, Tric, Web,Jim, Nakeen, and some backed off midway. Basically because I was active lurking during beginning of the day (which, while I kinda explained ahead of time why, is true  ) and, well, it's easy to pile up behind that.

Nakeen can't be executed D1 but really just jumped on the almost hammer at that point. Can't remember anything else, honestly, besides Wuba's hunch of towniness.

Also Jim has items.

Thought roundup in next post.

[webadict]

It's not fair if I don't answer.

I'm down with NJW2000 or Roden as my top picks.  NJW2000 has a lot of reads that I fundamentally disagree with and the reasoning doesn't make sense from my understanding of his perspective.  Roden... honestly, I'm not sure why I was so against Roden, but I felt they didn't progress anyone on their own, though that's maybe giving Roden too much credit.  I think his play is reminiscent of BeBYOR3.
I'm less okay with juicebox, since his posts have made me think he's more likely Town, but he's scaring me by showing up only when I feel he's pressured.  Not a fan.
I'd rather we didn't vote out TolyK, but he's got bad takes.  Is this because he's quick reading the thread?  Probably.  His pressure is causing him to blurt out things he wasn't prepared to say.  Odd.  Feels Town even though he's kinda freaking out.
I think nqt is probs Town.  I don't have good reasons, but his responses seem to be very lax, which is sort of his M.O.
Nakeen feels newbtown.  I base that on nothing.
Max is hella Town.  Roden voting him is another reason I think Roden is scum.
Toony is hella Town.  Surprised he hasn't been confused as to why I think so, but maybe he's watching me.  Spoooooooky.
EuchreJack is Town enough.
TricMagic is hella Town.
Vector is eh.
Knightwing is eh.
Jim is... maybe scum.  I know that's a weird take, considering how many people think Jim is Town, but I feel like he's being a little less conspicuous than I'm used to, even when he's usually intermittent.

I can't believe there are so many people that think that Toony and I are suspicious that refuse to choose one of us, it makes me a little left out.  I mean, it's definitely a spooky move to try that this close to the end of Day, but I could see it happening if the scum consist of enough free votes.

[ToonyMan]

Like, Toony has basically made three or four (honestly not gonna go through all posts on phone, lol) different claims and they all seem reasonable to me, in light of public info and a bit i haven't shown publicly. I don't think that people have access to so much information generally to fake reasonably on mechanics. Or maybe FBYOR has quite stable mechanics, which I missed. But if not, I think it's likely Toony has spit balled a few ideas that seem reasonable, partially taking from actual roles (his or teammates) and seen what sticks. I do understand it's a bit hypocritical to say "knows too much reasonable assumptions", but I haven't changed my story while Toony has. And Webadict has, but I take that more like trolling... And hard to read.

Maybe I'm just a wiseguy.

Seriously though, all of my claims relate to my actual role I swear.

I just want it to be difficult for mafia to know what I can even do while also making a future full-claim more believable if it comes up. Plus I think it's fun.

Also Jim has items.

I'm tempted to take all of Jim's items because I can do that, but if he's town that would be extremely mean and debilitating for us.

I don't need to. If I have a blameless D1 and you vote me out on garbage, the evidence will be entirely inthread. All people need to do is work out which people voting me aren't usually morons, and voila, there is scum.
CBA to reread tolyK's stuff, the vote was on inactivity and activelurking and he's stopped. I have a life, and need to sleep.
in fact:
unvote unvote
I mean to take this shit all the way. If you and Toony are town and elim me, you get beaten by either idiots or lurkers.

Hmmm.

[ToonyMan]

Toony is hella Town.  Surprised he hasn't been confused as to why I think so, but maybe he's watching me.  Spoooooooky.

That's one way to put it.

[webadict]

It's because I have ESP

eon.

[juicebox]

As for Roden, their vote is still on Max, but their case is poor, mainly stemming from a post Max made that they say was intended to get Roden to move their RVS vote. They've also interacted with wuba a bit, over their defense of Tric, but otherwise haven't interacted with much of anyone. As such it's hard to get a read on them.

Now as for NJW, they've been pretty under the radar. They pushed wuba a little, over Tric again, they've prodded the inactives, and made a reads list.

I don't like the reason for several of their reads, for example, they say they can't read Max, who is doing a pretty decent job of acting like town, and I also dislike the fact that they said they scumread Toony, but haven't really followed up on that at all.

so I think that right now I'm more comfortable putting my vote on NJW2000

[ToonyMan]

I think it's interesting that NJW unvoted TolyK but didn't vote Juicebox or anybody.

[TolyK]

Ok, latest thing was NQT pushing a bandwagon on Juice, who just said it was normal NQT town stuff. I don't get it. Why the hell is everyone bandwagoning so heavily D1? Or trying to at least.

Web, Tric basically said they were the same alignment. Web is doing odd things, apparently to not die D1/N1. Claimed a lot of info that does not seem to be contradicted, including first. Tric similarly. So far, I think they're same alignment and likely to be town ish.

NQT is a bot who has done analysis graphs and other things I enjoyed, but this last interaction with Juice seems like making a distacing alibi. I'd bite with Juicebox for now (who else will hop on? I dare you... I don't think they'll be eliminated but idk the cases against the rest lol. Ppe: well I'll keep vote for now. NQT would be alt vote).

Jim is just doing Jim things, just solid and can't really say much about alignment. Good that he's not buying most of these wagons. Isn't taking easy bait, so I guess slightly town lean?

Unless someone suggests otherwise I'll choose one of Tric, Webadict or Max to ask a philosophical question this night. Why those three? Most likely to accept, given my feeling they have multiple smaller abilities and/or dragon adjacent.

Ppe' : yeah, breadcrumb is an alt explanation for the behavior. Maybe Toony gets visited if vote goes a bit differently.

[TolyK]

Holy f is it hard to reply on phone. All the ninjas everywhere.

I think it's interesting that NJW unvoted TolyK but didn't vote Juicebox or anybody.

That actually makes less suspicious imo, in that their focus was on me, and after it ended up not going that way they have to reveal. That's the feeling I get, also late rvs retraction cuz late response from me.

[Maximum Spin]

I don't like the reason for several of their reads, for example, they say they can't read Max, who is doing a pretty decent job of acting like town,

Toooo be fair, you have no confusing I can be sometimes.

Also something I missed first time around. Could it also be that inspect results can change Max Spin?

Well, yeah.
That's baseline though. You know, framers, lawyers. Totally standard.
I dunno what to say about other things yet. Pretty tired. Will probably post again before the end.

[juicebox]

I don't like the reason for several of their reads, for example, they say they can't read Max, who is doing a pretty decent job of acting like town,

Toooo be fair, you have no confusing I can be sometimes.

True, but in this game in particular your behavior seems pretty townish.

[Maximum Spin]

I don't like the reason for several of their reads, for example, they say they can't read Max, who is doing a pretty decent job of acting like town,

Toooo be fair, you have no confusing I can be sometimes.

True, but in this game in particular your behavior seems pretty townish.

Wow, I really just accidentally that "idea how", huh. I guess that proves my point about being tired afterward.

[Knightwing64]

Meh. I’m Sussing Web, buttttt

Tricmagic

Are dragons like a third party, or what?

[Mamobo]

Vote Count
------------------------
-> NJW2000     --6-- EuchreJack*, ToonyMan*, Maximum Spin*, webadict*, TricMagic*, juicebox*,
juicebox       --2-- notquitethere*, TolyK*,
Maximum Spin   --1-- Roden*,
TolyK          --1-- Nakéen*,
TricMagic      --1-- Knightwing64*,
EuchreJack     --0--
Jim Groovester --0--
Knightwing64   --0--
Nakéen         --0--
notquitethere  --0--
Roden          --0--
ToonyMan       --0--
Vector         --0--
webadict       --0--
No One         --0--

Not Voting     --3-- Jim Groovester*, NJW2000*, Vector,

8 to Hammer. Day ends on October 16, 2022 at 02:00 Central Daylight Time (4 hours and 29 minutes remaining.)

[ToonyMan]

I think it's interesting that NJW unvoted TolyK but didn't vote Juicebox or anybody.

That actually makes less suspicious imo, in that their focus was on me, and after it ended up not going that way they have to reveal. That's the feeling I get, also late rvs retraction cuz late response from me.

That is the conclusion I've come to.

I feel like mafia!NJW would have jumped onto someone instead of holding their vote. Do they not want to vote Juicebox without a good reason to?