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[King Zultan]

Maybe Novel is a chatbot in human form.

[EuchreJack]

Maybe Novel is a chatbot in human form.

That tracks

[McTraveller]

No offense to either, but I have often wondered what would happen if we introduced Naturegirl to Scoops.

[Magmacube_tr]

No offense to either, but I have often wondered what would happen if we introduced Naturegirl to Scoops.

I can certainly imagine.


"Oh hi have you been here before?"

"Was I? Back in the 80's they would ask questions like that, but the more important thing is that how exactly such a question came to be!"

"I find this very interesting."

[Great Order]

Bit OOTL here, who's naturegirl?

[dragdeler]

I feel slightly uncomfortable when they are talked about like that in the third person. be it NS or NG

NG is a rly cool visitor who was very active at some point, and who was very curious and asked a lot of questions, sometimes bordering on the naive, sometimes a little impervious to humor and our little puns and in-jokes. And I sincerely hope the reason she shows so occasionally is because she is just busy as hell kicking ass, and not because we did one joke too many at her expense, I like her around.

[NJW2000]

Yeah. Also, beware being the talked-about, I guess.

[McTraveller]

In this case I meant it in the sense of missing the conversation of that particular member of the forum.  We miss them!

[TamerVirus]

Bit OOTL here, who's naturegirl?

Naturegirl1999 showed up a couples years back and became a pretty active member of the forum.
She’s relevant here because she made a number of rather enthusiastic threads and posts praising/advocating AI rights and the like.

[Magmacube_tr]

Bit OOTL here, who's naturegirl?

She is great company. Instantly endearing and relaxing to be around.

She is just a Bay forumite like us that's all.

[King Zultan]

You know, I bet you guys would never had guessed that Naturegirl seems to really like nature.

[Magmacube_tr]

You know, I bet you guys would never had guessed that Naturegirl seems to really like nature.

No shit, Sherlock.

[Starver]

Because it came to mind as apt to mention...

• they're here, but they stay quiet / only allow themselves to be photographed in blurred images

https://xkcd.com/1235/
https://xkcd.com/2572/ (...because https://xkcd.com/2573/ ...)

But this is just because I decided to finally pop my head up above the parapet about the presumptions of AI being at all involved: i.e. Why do we assume aliens pursue (and achieve) AI and not whatever is the alien equivelent of transhumanism? Even unto a further continuing process of Ascension, perhaps eventually to answer The Final Question if everyone who gets there can agree to pool their resources.

A possibly justified fear of being left behind/outvoted by their subsequent self-replicating AI personalities requires them to deliberately self-limit their aspirations to 'only' personal (aspirational-)immortalities. With the caveat of something like the [https://www.quora.com/If-a-matter-transporter-of-the-Star-Trek-variety-were-feasible-ignoring-Heisenberg-would-the-transported-individual-be-an-identical-copy-of-the-original-and-the-original-destroyed]transporter[/url] paradox of needing to destroy to (re-)establish anew as a Recreated Intelligence. Or, if done in stages, in the light of Trigger's Broom/Ship Of Thesus philosophising (with a Trek example, albeit averted).

The question is then whether RIs would/could/might replicate (sexually/asexually, in whatever terms of 'bio'genetic). Have they even developed the means to grow 'offspring' personalities, given they have avoided (or failed to perfect) AI-growing methodology, despite their comparative RI 'successes'? One would assume it (if it happens) involves some sort of a 'spark' of their parent('s|s') original personalit(y|ies), if the corporeal containers are no longer an issue, but... Why? They have reasonably secured their personal legacy already, and having already decided that (potentially) self-replicating AIs are a troublesome addition to their continued existence, child-RIs are now perhaps more trouble than they are worth under most circumstances.


(...and less than perfect experiments in personality transfer/spawning might explain something of... certain personalities here. Perhaps they're trying to infill gaps in their personae and experiential 'database'.)


Or any AI (or indeed RI) just has fully considered the situation and has no personal interest in anything other than their currently provided domain or (perhaps) self-imposed sandboxes. (Further thought-experiment: What if the ascended-aliens think they are outgoing and exploring? Or intentionally confine themselves 'safely' while comparatively inert probes augment their artificial realities with sufficient real-universe data. Time is now no object, and experiential time can be throttled back/adjusted to convenient levels that don't require conspicuous real-time communication or entropy-spewing emulative hardware... And may even be a practical limitation freely accepted.)

[King Zultan]

You could also just pour water on it.

[dragdeler]

Do not watercool it will overclock itself unless you want a quicker death.