That's reasonable. Hector seems pretty town here.
You suspect Jim so you're arguing that suspecting NQT over Jim seems wrong when NQT hadn't even posted yet. I don't agree, but maybe NQT will prove me wrong tomorrow. Voting Tric is definitely not the move.
@Jim:
Yes. Tric is town! Knightwing is mafia! The die has been cast. The coin has been flipped.
Not quite. Basically RVS for me is tipping scales one way or the other, but aren’t by any means solid reads that’ll last the game. As examples:
Tric gets his scales filled slightly to the town side for claiming Miller in his first post.
Jim gets his scales tipped toward scum for the shitposting, but tipped back toward the middle/town for the more recent stuff.
You’re doing odd things (but it is RVS and is “useful”) that are making other people post things but I don’t like that you are townreading Jim when his posts to that point didn’t have much “content” in them, while you were using that in a process of elimination to scumread NQT, who had any posted his oddness yet.
The Jim/NQT thing makes you look bad, but it’s a small part in your overall contribution that’s notable, but not worrisome.
It’s difficult to explain right given my lack of sleep. I think what it comes down to is I haven’t played many games with you or Jim, and you both cut your teeth in a different time to me on the board. You probably both have a better understanding of how the other plays and what that means as it relates to alignments. Consequently you’re doing a lot of work “under the hood” so to speak, so it makes sense to you that what Jim’s doing looks town because you’ve seen it before, whereas I’m working on a blank(er) slate so it doesn’t makes as much sense to me how you’re getting your read. Something like that anyway, if any of that makes sense.
The important thing is that I am town.
Yeah, yeah, sure, of course, but I'd rather identify one scum between four chaos players and one scum between three law players, instead of identify one scum between four chaos players + Maximum Spin and one scum between three law players + Maximum Spin.
@Jim: Prior to your most recent post, your main contribution was to complain about boring plays, complain about how I was voting arbitrarily while you were voting me because I was chaos, and there was probably something else but I can’t be bothered reading the thread back at this hour.
My main problem with Toony clearing you over NQT is the above combined with the fact NQT hadn’t even posted yet, -though their initial post and vote of a claimed Miller in what is probably getting to the tail-end of RVS is… questionable, as an RVS vote and probably beyond that also - and while I tend to gut read everything, I’m disinclined to indict (convict? There’s a word there I want to use and I don’t know if either of those are quite it) someone before they’ve posted, particularly when they’re being scumread over someone whose contribution was 90% shitpost.
It ain’t a mountain, but it’s a notable molehill.
Also I should clarify that someone being useful is them being useful in RVS, in other words doing things to get out of it quickly, which the shitposting, while fun, is not useful. *banal story about scum wanting to stay in RVS forever*
There’s no time for fun and games in mafia, it’s srs bznz.
But shitposts are useful content and I'd rather have the shitposts over the
I don't even know what RVS alternative you're suggesting is preferable to shitposts.
Because shitposts give a glimpse into a player's attitude and how comfortable and genuine they appear to be, both important indicators for whether a player is town or scum.
It might just be a difference in playstyle. Shitposting might make you look relaxed, but it doesn’t tend to get others involved in the game. A good response to a shitpost is a shitpost, which doesn’t tell me much about anything. Very specifically me, anyway. Equally so, someone could shitpost a few times then read their PM if they’re worried about getting stressed out over being scum or something.
I think asking questions and voting encourages other players to get involved, allowing a more complete (for RVS!) picture of the game.
Horses for courses though, if we all played the game the same way it would be boring.
my way is still better
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