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The Great Breakage
« on: March 27, 2022, 12:28:23 pm »

It's easier to break interconnected systems then to rely on them. What's happening with Russia, Coronavirus, it's all part of this trend. The world will splinter up before it actually acts with unity in the current system. And maybe that's fair enough. This big network can't be relied upon to go anywhere good. Our future is too much of a fuzzy animal in the dark to be worth chasing.

But is this going to do enough to get someplace good?
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Re: The Great Breakage
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2022, 02:01:01 pm »

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Our future is too much of a fuzzy animal in the dark to be worth chasing.
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Talk about the seeds of this thread's own destruction...
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Re: The Great Breakage
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2022, 02:16:00 pm »

"The Great Breakage" is simply what happens after I consume one too many bean burritos.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2022, 01:16:48 am »

So we need to find something great and break it, but what should we break?
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Re: The Great Breakage
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2022, 01:24:28 am »

So we need to find something great and break it, but what should we break?
Russia.  Next question!

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2022, 02:40:34 am »

So we need to find something great and break it, but what should we break?
Russia.  Next question!
So we need to pick it up and brake it over our knee, sounds a bit heavy but I think it can happen!
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Re: The Great Breakage
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2022, 09:57:20 am »

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Re: The Great Breakage
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2022, 06:03:23 am »

It's easier to break interconnected systems then to rely on them. What's happening with Russia, Coronavirus, it's all part of this trend. The world will splinter up before it actually acts with unity in the current system. And maybe that's fair enough. This big network can't be relied upon to go anywhere good. Our future is too much of a fuzzy animal in the dark to be worth chasing.

But is this going to do enough to get someplace good?
First off; I must say I appreciate you making these threads with such regularity. I gather that they're not everyone's cup of tea but it is cool to see novel ideas pop up every now and then :P

But to answer the question, it'll probably depend on where you live and what station you were born into. We will see a significant divide in the living standards of the mobile and the immobile. And I don't just mean socially mobile, I mean literal, physical mobility. The kinds of people who can afford to just move to whatever country they want at any time of the year for any reason or no reason at all are naturally going to be able to adapt and exploit the changes where they are beneficial and avoid them where they are calamitous. For the rest of us, it's just a toss of the dice whether we win or lose.

Interconnectivity in the global system is fairly hard to break by accident. Even when you try on purpose, it's still pretty damn hard to break. Consider the start of globalism. The Ottomans and Venetians cut the Portuguese off from the lucrative spice trade; a connection is severed. Yet it drove the Portuguese to search elsewhere and discover the Americas & the Cape of Good Hope. The despot Napoleon tried his best to enforce a continental blockade against Great Britain, but even then trade links couldn't be stamped out completely, and new links were forged with the Americas. Even at the height of European Imperial protectionism, much of the European states traded more with their rivals than they did with their own colonies - even with heavy import tariffs in place.

For states like Russia, they may be in a spot of trouble. Stuff like their regional governors blocking exports of sugar to other Russian provinces tend to herald the decentralisation of the state into many smaller independent polities. And unlike maritime states, being an inland Russian province doesn't lead to many alternative connections being available. Russia may fragment; even I hear from Russian friends living in Moscow that basic medicines are out of stock and the only thing the pharmacist has available is vodka. How long until even the vodka is gone? Who knows.

Wars, pandemics - these brought the Roman Empire's economy to its knees and forced local governors to become self-sufficient lords of their own provinces, the precursor to their own kingdoms. These days these remain threats, but I fear the worse to come will come from climate change. We'll not see anything yet until our standard for "mass migration" changes from millions to billions, as the world is forced from their homes

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Re: The Great Breakage
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2022, 01:45:37 pm »

Interconnectivity in the global system is fairly hard to break by accident. Even when you try on purpose, it's still pretty damn hard to break.

We have more tools to do this then you think, and so much inconvienent infrastructure... you don't have to break that much, you just have to make one squeaky gear sing after the next. The Presidents no longer an asshole? Time for a recession. No recession? Culture war. Etc. If enough things squeak people will lose faith anyway.

You have established though you often end up with new and stronger ties to replace the old. Perhaps whats needed is more competing global networks?

Yo Loud, your avatar is broke btw. No wait, keep it, it's appropriate.
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Re: The Great Breakage
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2022, 02:11:30 pm »

The Presidents no longer an asshole? Time for a recession.

Recent economic slumps have pretty much always been the delayed result of poor economic policy of the previous admin.  Then again the US economy in general could probably be best described as an over worked and under slept guy that's only working hard due to regular forced chugging of government monster energy drank.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2022, 06:09:14 am »

There's also the unavoidable problem that people are very good at sharing thier suffering, and right now the karma train isn't greased yet. People also like to spread thier joy, but more sporadically.
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Re: The Great Breakage
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2022, 01:29:59 am »

There's also the unavoidable problem that people are very good at sharing thier suffering, and right now the karma train isn't greased yet. People also like to spread thier joy, but more sporadically.

Selflessness tends to be looked upon with suspicion. The selfless are obviously up to something if they don’t overtly benefit from their actions.

Bill Gates is apparently injecting mine-control chips into everyone in the world through vaccine initiatives, for example.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2022, 04:02:52 pm »

Why would he do that? He already controls most of our computers though secret backdoor commands.
Bill Gates is easy to understand: His "wife" makes him do it.  So his philanthropy makes sense.

...speaking of breakage, I should perhaps say ex-wife.

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Re: The Great Breakage
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2022, 04:18:51 pm »

his wife, what the fuck

that's a shitty take even if it's supposed to be an ironic twist coming from the 5g vaccine microchip nonsense

More reasonably, as I recall from the Behind the Bastards two-parter episode on Bill Gates, his philanthropy is largely to establish markets or market footholds in growing nations to make more money off of while writing off the costs of doing so as charity. Also, as I recall, he generally opposed the open-sourcing of the covid vaccine he was donating so much money towards because he wanted to get patent money out of it.

So, no, wives don't coerce billionaires into doing philanthropy, the promise of more money and tax cuts do.
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Re: The Great Breakage
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2022, 04:30:47 pm »

Sorry I think it would be much cooler if it really was "mine-control" devices.

Minesweeper in Windows 3.x makes so much more sense now!
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