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Probably a good idea.

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Not really necessary.

2 (33.3%)

I don't play Berserker so I don't really have an opinion.

3 (50%)

Total Members Voted: 6

[Smoke Mirrors]

Okay here's a thought: I feel like the problem isn't so much the high damage, as it is the low health. Since mana is both health and spellcasting energy, it makes Servants incredibly fragile. You need to pop your NP right away in order to beat the enemy before they reduce your mana to lower than you need to cast it.

So I propose that Servants specifically(and maybe bosses) get double the amount of Mana from the stat. I feel like it'd be a good way to ensure that Battle Continuation isn't the only way for a fight between Servants to last more than 2 turns.

Also, gonna be honest, I'm realizing from my calculations that John Henry has an awful NP. Assuming maximum damage from his NP at its minimum rank, he just spent 40 mana to deal 80 damage. Period. Meanwhile assuming those exact same conditions he would have done 100 damage for only 10 mana by attacking normally.
Only assuming the enemy rolls critical on damage resistance does his NP at D-Rank(so 40 mana cost) deal more damage than a regular attack, and it's only 10 more.(40 vs 50)

The other two levels meanwhile, do 20 and 60 more damage than a normal attack at best respectively and give the enemy a fairly hefty endurance debuff, but give John Henry an even heftier debuff to match. I feel like paying 80 mana and crippling yourself should be worth more than 160 damage and a -4 to endurance rolls for the enemy.

By now I agree with you, but earlier, when it was still 80+ damage, so most likely 100 if the opponent rolled 2 endurance saves, I’d designed a boss with 300 health so, if only Nuada dealt damage, they’d be out on turn 3, which Nuada could get to due to 2 guts effects, and that’s ignoring other units. As is, with the +10(+50 with NP), I’m ok with doubling servant life, but I may also increase the boss to higher as well.

As for your NP, anyone can make minor edits right now.

Wait, don’t d-rank NPs only cost 20 mana?

Berserkers spend more nana to use an NP

[Failbird105]

John Henry doesn't actually have the mana cost up. Rather, the 40 is because he pays the Overload tax for every attack since his NP makes more than one attack.

[BlackPaladin99]

Ah. 

[Smoke Mirrors]

So… any further questions or edits?

[BlackPaladin99]

I don’t think so.

[Lenglon]

So… any further questions or edits?

Nope.

[BlackPaladin99]

Bump

[Smoke Mirrors]

Right, sorry. Explanation, I’ve been busy with some stuff over spring break. Yesterday I was in the car all day and I’ve been doing work most of this morning. If we don’t have any more issues, the opening of 1.2 should be up tonight. Sorry again.

[Smoke Mirrors]

Test 1.2
As you make your way out of the cave and into the valley, you look around. The narrow pass is rocky, with sparse grass and wildflowers dotting the surface, curved slightly by a chilly breeze floating through, and the walls of rock on either side are much the same. Some small boulders and piles of stone, the remnants of rockslides, lay around. Looking up, you see the cloudy blue sky, the sun, slightly covered by the clouds, and, more pressingly, a pair of wyverns flying overhead.

From what you can see of the wyverns, they’re covered in green scales, with brownish ones covering the underside of their stomach, neck, and tail. The webbing of their wings seems to share the color, as well as the spike the whips around at the end of their tail. You get a better look as one of them swoops down for a swipe. There’s a claw at the edge of their wing, and a pair of green horns on their head, sitting above a pair of solid yellow eyes. Overlapping pointed teeth lay in its mouth, more meant for digging into a body and not letting go than for cutting the meat itself. No, that’s what the claws are for. Four on each brown foot, with one sticking off like a Velociraptor’s claw. Fortunately, it only cuts through the rocks above your head, but you can see the second one coming by for another try.

(Action)

[Lenglon]

((which characters do you want in on this test?))

[Smoke Mirrors]

((which characters do you want in on this test?))

The plan was to keep the same character for all of the 1. tests, 1.1-1.5, so I could get a better image of the strength of the enemies by using a consistent metric. I’ll pick a new batch starting with 2.1, which I currently think will be the first team combat test.

[Lenglon]

World 1: Irine behaves as she actually would.
Current form: full-fox
Current Mana: 100/100

nope, not playing this game, especially with things big enough to pick up me and carry me off like this.
run back into the cave I came out of so these wyverns lose their flight advantage, then Flame Dance the cave if they chase me inside.
World 2: Noble Phantasm Test, not how she would actually behave
Current form: full-fox
Current Mana: 100/100

Curl up, hiding as much of myself behind my tails as I can, and Firestorm the valley.
((The reason I want to run that second test is because she actually would be very reluctant to use her NP, and the higher damage potential the enemies are the worse of an idea it is to use the thing mid-combat, meaning in later tests she's likely to get herself killed if she tries to use the thing since the enemies then will be high-damage. In the group test (if she's part of it) she still won't want to use it because of friendly fire problems. If you want to avoid the extra work and just handle one, I suggest going with the way she'd actually behave.))

Spoiler: Irine (click to show/hide)

Origin (Player): {Created in Roll to Deity} {actively played for five years in Speical People (from start to finish)} (Lenglon)
Name: Irine
Class: Caster
Alignment: LG
Mana: 100/100
Traits: Avatar of a fallen god, limited shapeshifter, multi-species, female, human, multi-tail-fox, flame

Appearance: Adolescent female human/Adolescent female human with 3 fox tails (proportionately adjusted to fit the human body, making them quite large), fox ears (again adjusted), carnivorous teeth/Adolescent Multi-tail fox, currently at 3 tails (approx biological age: 130), has gold/orange hair of a moderate length, gold/orange eyes. largest form in terms of volume is hybrid because of the tails, but if you ignore the tails or if you go by mass instead of volume she's largest as full-human. smallest is full-fox. fur/hair/skin is reactive to light, seeming to slightly glow, as though all light sources are also blacklights, with tiny bright patches scattered all over.

Parameters:
Strength: E
Endurance: C
Agility: C
Mana: A
Luck: C

Class Skills:
Item creation (A)
+5 for your roll under number for Mana when rolling to cast a spell.

Territory creation (A) (special, see personal skills)
When not in combat, you can declare one non hostile area. When in that area, you gain 25 mana every action.

Divinity (C) (fallen deity)
+15 Damage

Personal Skills:

Resilient Tails (E)
Description: Irine's tails are noticeably more resilient and protective than the rest of her body, and she can shelter herself behind them against some blows if she is in her full-fox or hybrid forms.
Effect: +2 Endurance against attacks that hit her tails.

Soul of fire (A)
Description:Irine's soul-self envelops a dramatically larger area than her body, and within that area she feels and manipulates all flames as a extention of her own body.
Effect:Within approx 100 yards of Irine's body she is able to feel and manipulate flames without any effort, spell, or mana expenditure, as well as making her immune to most flames herself, is immune to fire terrain effects, and it grants her +6 resistance against special flames like enemy fire-based Noble Phantasms. most importantly, she can maintain fire effects within this range without cost beyond the startup cost to begin them.

Beacon of flame (A)
Description: Irine grows in power the more firey the environment.
Effect: Irine treats any region with active flames as her territory, the quality of the territory depending on how intense the environment's fires are. This does imply she can create a feedback loop from her flame attacks starting fires that make the combat area give back some of the mana she spent mid-combat.

Spells:
Pyro-shapeshifter (E) (Utility) (self)
Cost: 10 mana
Description: Irine is able to switch between her forms at will.
Effect: change between forms, no combat effect.

Flame orb (D)
Cost: 20 mana
Description: Irine generates a simple orb of fire that she freely manipulates as her weapon of choice.
Effect: 20 damage to a single target, can be cast in addition to maintaining and using previous fire effects via Soul of Fire.

Flame Dance (B)
Cost: 40 mana
Description: Irine generates numerous spheres of flame within an area (roughly the size of a large room like a gym), moving them in complex patterns within the region, making it difficult to move through and burning those that don't dodge well.
Effect: 20 damage to all within the targeted area and obstructs movement, In order to move through, move within, or exit the effected area, units must roll a successful Agility check.

Noble Phantasm:
Firestorm (A) Anti-Region
Cost: 50 mana
Description: When Irine no longer cares about collateral damage and has decided it's time for everything to burn, she cuts loose. She has intimate knowledge of the mechanics of flame and its interactions with the fuel and air around it, and uses this to  induce either a fire whirl or a firestorm. This process takes some time to begin, and requires her full focus to perform, but it continuously grows in power until she stops.
Effects: requires continuous channeling to maintain. grows in rank with every turn it is continuously channeled, begins at E rank, does not fade all at once, instead losing a rank for every turn after the channeling is over. causes (Rank) damage to all non-Irine beings in range each turn and attempts to suck them into the center of the effect at (Rank) strength, disabling them for the turn. Opposed Strength check to resist this effect.

[Stirk]

Doc pulls out both his pistols, releasing a flurry of fire from both revolvers right into the wyvern's belly when it dives close.

[Failbird105]

John Henry
Damn animals always got in the way of rail work. He heated the spike.
"Go on, git!" Throw the spike into the incoming Wyvern

[BlackPaladin99]

noble phantasm and stab the closest one

sorry for being offline, had password troubles.