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[Quarque]

[RoseHeart]

@a1s, truce?

Sure. Let's agree to warn the other 5 turns in advance of resuming hostilities.

Alright.




Once I have 2 soldiers you can get supplies.

[King Zultan]

[RoseHeart]

New Engineer skill
1 active per team
paint a box in your team color, next one of your engineers (not on other side of barrier)
Enemy units moves onto it safely and remove it.
Detonate: If you haven't taken a turn in 6 hours or more, you may remove your colored box, and destroy all units and disown all doors (including friendly for both) that are in a straight line in up and down directions. A map-spanning pillar of destruction.

[Quarque]

I fear that remote mines would lead to an unbreakable stalemate so I'm not in favour, sorry.

[RoseHeart]

I fear that remote mines would lead to an unbreakable stalemate so I'm not in favour, sorry.

Hmm, that's what it was meant to combat quite precisely. It's an extra Offensive option.

May even lead to multiple teams taken out.

[Quarque]

[a1s]

[RoseHeart]

[Quarque]

[RoseHeart]

Can't shoot through walls. Collides with the first thing it hits, and unowned walls are indestructible.

[Quarque]

Thatīs a rule change. What the rules currently say is something else:

• (free action)(once per unit) Choose a soldier, destroy the first unit or enemy wall in a straight line to either the left or right. Hits your units and allies.

No mention of non-enemy walls.

I'm okay with this rule change, provided that we revert to the situation as it was before I started shooting your units:

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Instead of shooting through a wall as I did, I will play it like this then:

[RoseHeart]

No we're not gunna rewind more than the last move. Ever.


This isn't a rule change, it's a clarification. (There was 0 chance my intention was for bullets to stop at everything else and go through walls. Also makes firebats redundant and inferior..)


Current newest turn is my last one.


Edit: I don't mean this in a mean way, but this casual game requires some basic inference, in order to keep light wording in the rules. What was your head canon for why this was allowed?

(armor-piercing pistol rounds, that's some scary stuff, man!)

[Quarque]

Edit: I don't mean this in a mean way, but this casual game requires some basic inference, in order to keep light wording in the rules. What was your head canon for why this was allowed?

(armor-piercing pistol rounds, that's some scary stuff, man!)

Writing unambiguous rules is difficult, easy to overlook some detail that turns out to be important. But unfortunately you canīt rely on people just understanding your intentions.

Flamebats shoot straight through walls and Engineers can kill a unit behind a wall too, so I saw no reason to assume that soldiers would not. That's how the rule was written and it looked like a feature to me, not a loophole.

Also makes firebats redundant and inferior..)

In my opinion it is the other way around. Firebats can take down multiple enemy units and walls and most importantly, they can disown doors from a distance, again ignoring walls.

But anyway, could you please edit the rules to clarify how this works then? And how about walls of your own color, can soldiers shoot through those?

Current newest turn is my last one.

Ok, continuing from there:

[RoseHeart]

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Flamebats shoot straight through walls

That's...a pretty good point.

(I can see I am bringing arcade logic to a forum that isn't in any way necessarily an arcade gaming one.)

Writing unambiguous rules is difficult, easy to overlook some detail that turns out to be important. But unfortunately you canīt rely on people just understanding your intentions.

This isn't some hand me down game, this is a brand new game. I'm an experimental host, my main concern is "is it physically possible to combine the 2D grid hurt and heal system I invented a couple years ago, with picture wars in order to make it more structured"? I think it's been successful.

But this is a playtest and you're my playtester.

(Which is apparent in the fact this is a mashup.)

I have cultivated an air of democracy, that's not normal for most forum games, because I like that vibe, and giving more power to the players is a core tenant of my personal design philosophy.

But I am not your sibling arguing over house rules. I am the captain of this ship, at the end of the day. That's the only way were going to get through these uncharted waters. This is a democracy-inspired dictatorship, and I'm not going to be bargaining every time there's a discrepancy. The polished game you want is probably a few games out, and by my own personal nature, I may be exploring new concepts and offshoots before we ever get there.

This a lightweight cruiser, not a large cruise ship.

But anyway, could you please edit the rules to clarify how this works then? And how about walls of your own color, can soldiers shoot through those?

I told you. And that's good enough.

If you'd like it in writing here's the forum guidelines:

If the creator of a thread gives appropriate additional guidelines for an individual thread, please try to respect them.  Threads often drift away from their opening themes here, and there isn't a strong sense of thread "ownership", so there's a gray area, but if a thread has been designed for a specific purpose, please try to adhere to that, especially if the creator urges you to do so.  Do not derail threads.

And how about walls of your own color, can soldiers shoot through those?

No. They cannot. (It destroys them.) It can be inferred that since it "Hits your units and allies.", your walls are not an exception.