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A_Curious_Cat

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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2021, 01:21:47 pm »

Most tree seeds are damn useless, they clutter your stockpiles and have an amazing trading value of 1, the only way of knowing how many you have is through the stockpile menu, the dwarves still have to store them and they'll generate jobs for that, they also count for the seed limit treshold.

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Hear! Hear!

I’ve been trying to figure out how to get rid of the damned things, but I can’t seem to trade them away without trading away all of my other seeds!
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2021, 04:19:39 pm »

I’ve been trying to figure out how to get rid of the damned things, but I can’t seem to trade them away without trading away all of my other seeds!

I just set all undesired seeds to be dumped from the stocks menu and obliterate them with an atom smasher.

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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2021, 01:11:01 am »

adamantine warhammers

are perfect for hammerers
(although featherwood crossbows will do in a pinch)
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2021, 06:37:29 am »

Levels, to riff off of Raph Koster, are often an enemy to simulation. Particularly when there are too many.

Categories of behavior would work better, because they would be fewer, and because the few would have more nuance.

*gestures to dabbling craftsdorf RNGing a masterwork, and unlike a moody dorf, they remain dabbling* >_>
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2021, 06:54:05 pm »

Most tree seeds are damn useless, they clutter your stockpiles and have an amazing trading value of 1, the only way of knowing how many you have is through the stockpile menu, the dwarves still have to store them and they'll generate jobs for that, they also count for the seed limit treshold.
I’ve been trying to figure out how to get rid of the damned things, but I can’t seem to trade them away without trading away all of my other seeds!

My seed stockpile has no barrels or pots. It's just bags. Whenever the traders come, I can trade away any bag of tree seeds easily, and buy bags to replace the bag stockpile (or leather to make more bags with). I like this method for roleplay reasons: The elves buy all my tree seeds. I also like it for cancellation spam reasons: no cancellation spam when my farmers are planting crops, as they all get a different bag from the seed stockpile, instead of trying to fight over the barrel of seeds when one dwarf wants beet seeds, the next wants blueberry seeds, and the third dwarf wants to plant pigtail and they're all in the same sodding barrel. Seed stockpiles are just better if you get rid of the barrel problem.
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2021, 06:32:46 pm »

Civilized humanoids having bite attacks. Better off being cut IMO until the AI gets to the point where it can recognize situations where biting would actually be appropriate (e.g. when your limbs are bound or missing).

Not quite as far-fetched as you would think. Was a fairly common thing in fights in early American History apparently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gouging_(fighting_style)
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2021, 10:02:55 pm »

Levels, to riff off of Raph Koster, are often an enemy to simulation. Particularly when there are too many.

Categories of behavior would work better, because they would be fewer, and because the few would have more nuance.

*gestures to dabbling craftsdorf RNGing a masterwork, and unlike a moody dorf, they remain dabbling* >_>

It’s not called the “random number god” for nothing!
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2021, 11:16:06 pm »

Civilized humanoids having bite attacks. Better off being cut IMO until the AI gets to the point where it can recognize situations where biting would actually be appropriate (e.g. when your limbs are bound or missing).

Not quite as far-fetched as you would think. Was a fairly common thing in fights in early American History apparently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gouging_(fighting_style)

Welp, Jebediah done shook Judah around after he latched on with a good bite. It sundered many ligaments in Judah's body. His father is stricken with great grief.

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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2021, 10:00:09 am »

Civilized humanoids having bite attacks. Better off being cut IMO until the AI gets to the point where it can recognize situations where biting would actually be appropriate (e.g. when your limbs are bound or missing).

I feel obligated to provide a comedic counterexample.
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2021, 05:52:00 pm »

Legendary Cheesemakers.

By the way, the whole cheese maker skill is useless. It would be far better if cheeses were made by cooks, or at least if cheese had quality modifiers.
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2021, 03:48:57 pm »

Gnomeblight.
I must disagree, while gnomes are rarely a problem, and manufacturing this substance is annoying and using it is nearly impossible unless your entire fortress' goal is to use it, I still think it's useful. As an interaction example. Just another one of many, like venoms and other syndromes for people to look at and gain a slightly better understanding of how to mod raws.

But yeah that's only on an out-of-game context. In game it's fucking useless lmao.
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2022, 06:13:56 pm »

Children.
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2022, 07:36:41 pm »

Animal caretaking.
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2022, 08:48:50 pm »

wood block
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Re: What is the single most useless/meaningless thing in DF?
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2022, 04:43:14 am »

Prepared monarch butterfly brain. Like, how does that even look like?!
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